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'The plight of Jimmy Lai shames us all:' Jailed Hong Kong pro-democracy activist and British citizen Jimmy Lai now exceeded 1,600 days in solitary confinement, yet has committed no crime

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  • pugjesus@lemmy.worldP This user is from outside of this forum
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    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/35703806

    crosspostato da: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/35703805

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    [Op-ed by Benedict Rogers, Senior Director of Fortify Rights and a co-founder and trustee of Hong Kong Watch.]

    Dictatorships use solitary confinement as a form of torture, designed to break the prisoner’s spirit. Under international law, “prolonged solitary confinement” is defined as exceeding 15 days.

    British citizen and 77 year-old media entrepreneur Jimmy Lai, in jail in Hong Kong, has now exceeded 1,600 days in solitary confinement, yet has committed no crime.

    He has already served several prison sentences on multiple trumped-up charges, including 13 months for lighting a candle and saying a prayer at a vigil commemorating the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre.

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      cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/35703806

      crosspostato da: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/35703805

      Archived

      [Op-ed by Benedict Rogers, Senior Director of Fortify Rights and a co-founder and trustee of Hong Kong Watch.]

      Dictatorships use solitary confinement as a form of torture, designed to break the prisoner’s spirit. Under international law, “prolonged solitary confinement” is defined as exceeding 15 days.

      British citizen and 77 year-old media entrepreneur Jimmy Lai, in jail in Hong Kong, has now exceeded 1,600 days in solitary confinement, yet has committed no crime.

      He has already served several prison sentences on multiple trumped-up charges, including 13 months for lighting a candle and saying a prayer at a vigil commemorating the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre.

      [...]

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      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Lai

      In May 2020, Lai told CNN news that US president Donald Trump was "the only one who can save us" from China, with Apple Daily publishing a similar plea addressed to Trump the same month.

      There's something ironic about this...

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      • pugjesus@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

        cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/35703806

        crosspostato da: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/35703805

        Archived

        [Op-ed by Benedict Rogers, Senior Director of Fortify Rights and a co-founder and trustee of Hong Kong Watch.]

        Dictatorships use solitary confinement as a form of torture, designed to break the prisoner’s spirit. Under international law, “prolonged solitary confinement” is defined as exceeding 15 days.

        British citizen and 77 year-old media entrepreneur Jimmy Lai, in jail in Hong Kong, has now exceeded 1,600 days in solitary confinement, yet has committed no crime.

        He has already served several prison sentences on multiple trumped-up charges, including 13 months for lighting a candle and saying a prayer at a vigil commemorating the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre.

        [...]

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        Where are all the hexbear people telling us how China is actually the good guy for doing this?

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          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Lai

          In May 2020, Lai told CNN news that US president Donald Trump was "the only one who can save us" from China, with Apple Daily publishing a similar plea addressed to Trump the same month.

          There's something ironic about this...

          pugjesus@lemmy.worldP This user is from outside of this forum
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          Unfortunately, being against one authoritarian regime does not inherently guarantee the ability to correctly identify others, it would seem.

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            Where are all the hexbear people telling us how China is actually the good guy for doing this?

            eldritch@lemmy.worldE This user is from outside of this forum
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            You won't see any from that domain as it is defederated. But we should see several soon from ml domains and a few other domains. Telling us how he deserved to be jailed for advocating for democracy against the vanguard. Which is democracy incarnate. You can choose from them them or them after all.

            That or they will attack the messenger, claiming that the events never happened. Because they don't like the messenger. That they were somehow a western CIA plant Etc.

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            • eldritch@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

              You won't see any from that domain as it is defederated. But we should see several soon from ml domains and a few other domains. Telling us how he deserved to be jailed for advocating for democracy against the vanguard. Which is democracy incarnate. You can choose from them them or them after all.

              That or they will attack the messenger, claiming that the events never happened. Because they don't like the messenger. That they were somehow a western CIA plant Etc.

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              It’s not defederated from lemm.ee though, which the person you replied to is on. Having said that, I haven’t really seen a lot of their users for a while now. Maybe I’m just not subscribed to the communities they participate in.

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                It’s not defederated from lemm.ee though, which the person you replied to is on. Having said that, I haven’t really seen a lot of their users for a while now. Maybe I’m just not subscribed to the communities they participate in.

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                Aaaah FairPoint I made a bad assumption. I should know better than that LOL. (Edit : this post is on world on Lemmy.world. only Lemmy.ml from the triad can interact ATM. So you all actually do get a small reprieve)

                They did not Federate at all for a long time. Until they did. And that's when a lot of the issues started to occur. When they tried to enforce their Echo chamber outside the echo chamber. Discovering they were no longer the big fish, their ponds now dwarfed.

                Since then a lot of ML have largely pulled back to their safe spaces. At least from our side of things. Still silent down voting, and about 5-6 recognizable names consistently offering detached/unhinged takes from the domains not blocked.

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                  It’s not defederated from lemm.ee though, which the person you replied to is on. Having said that, I haven’t really seen a lot of their users for a while now. Maybe I’m just not subscribed to the communities they participate in.

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                  But the community we’re in is on lemmy.world. I think that means the entire community won’t federate to them. (As posts first go to the community, then are federated out from the community to other instances.) that’s my understanding anyway. Like my post coming from .zip will first go to the com on .world, then federate out to others like .ee, but bear will then never see this (even though .zip is still fedded with bear, which I know because I still see their shit from here in other coms.)

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                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Lai

                    In May 2020, Lai told CNN news that US president Donald Trump was "the only one who can save us" from China, with Apple Daily publishing a similar plea addressed to Trump the same month.

                    There's something ironic about this...

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                    Trump was president during the Hong Kong crackdown, they were begging for help.

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                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Lai

                      In May 2020, Lai told CNN news that US president Donald Trump was "the only one who can save us" from China, with Apple Daily publishing a similar plea addressed to Trump the same month.

                      There's something ironic about this...

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                      Could be worse (but not by much). Some protesters in 2019/20 had the UK and Hong Kong British colonial flag

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                        But the community we’re in is on lemmy.world. I think that means the entire community won’t federate to them. (As posts first go to the community, then are federated out from the community to other instances.) that’s my understanding anyway. Like my post coming from .zip will first go to the com on .world, then federate out to others like .ee, but bear will then never see this (even though .zip is still fedded with bear, which I know because I still see their shit from here in other coms.)

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                        For what it’s worth, this is also my understanding, as the administrator and operator of this Lemmy instance.

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                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Lai

                          In May 2020, Lai told CNN news that US president Donald Trump was "the only one who can save us" from China, with Apple Daily publishing a similar plea addressed to Trump the same month.

                          There's something ironic about this...

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                            cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/35703806

                            crosspostato da: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/35703805

                            Archived

                            [Op-ed by Benedict Rogers, Senior Director of Fortify Rights and a co-founder and trustee of Hong Kong Watch.]

                            Dictatorships use solitary confinement as a form of torture, designed to break the prisoner’s spirit. Under international law, “prolonged solitary confinement” is defined as exceeding 15 days.

                            British citizen and 77 year-old media entrepreneur Jimmy Lai, in jail in Hong Kong, has now exceeded 1,600 days in solitary confinement, yet has committed no crime.

                            He has already served several prison sentences on multiple trumped-up charges, including 13 months for lighting a candle and saying a prayer at a vigil commemorating the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre.

                            [...]

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                            Free Hong Kong and West Taiwan! Fuck the CCP and PLA and Lai is completely wrong about Putin's Sock Puppet saving his ass.

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                              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Lai

                              In May 2020, Lai told CNN news that US president Donald Trump was "the only one who can save us" from China, with Apple Daily publishing a similar plea addressed to Trump the same month.

                              There's something ironic about this...

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                              "Master Skywalker, save me!"

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