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If people want a respectful space to discuss among themselves I don't see any good reason to force myself into the conversation.

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    If people want a respectful space to discuss among themselves I don't see any good reason to force myself into the conversation. Not every space on the internet (or real life) needs to be a stage for the free marketplace of ideas, especially when you're talking about already marginalised communities who are easily disenfranchised by many of the kinds of people attracted to that style of space.

    Personally, looking at the interaction between yourself and the mod, it reads to me like you was the one who was sarcastic and rude.

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      If people want a respectful space to discuss among themselves I don't see any good reason to force myself into the conversation. Not every space on the internet (or real life) needs to be a stage for the free marketplace of ideas, especially when you're talking about already marginalised communities who are easily disenfranchised by many of the kinds of people attracted to that style of space.

      Personally, looking at the interaction between yourself and the mod, it reads to me like you was the one who was sarcastic and rude.

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      Are women considered marginalised communities outside the minds of feminists?

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        Are women considered marginalised communities outside the minds of feminists?

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        Women have been historically and presently marginalised, yes.

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          Are women considered marginalised communities outside the minds of feminists?

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          As someone who opposes lots of what feminist theories claim and what some feminist groups preach and do my answer is: Yes, obviously, you have to be a special kind of stupid to not realize that women are marginalized in our society. Next you'll tell me that outside of black live matter no one thinks blacks are marginalized.

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            Are women considered marginalised communities outside the minds of feminists?

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            Women are literally forced to carry babies. And that includes DEAD women.

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              As someone who opposes lots of what feminist theories claim and what some feminist groups preach and do my answer is: Yes, obviously, you have to be a special kind of stupid to not realize that women are marginalized in our society. Next you'll tell me that outside of black live matter no one thinks blacks are marginalized.

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              I would agree with you but I don't think women are marginalised in my society. They may feel as if they are though because they're generally told they are. I will accept Muslim women are but most who I know actually accept being told what to do and not do and the abuse they receive. Less of the personal insults, huh?

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                Women have been historically and presently marginalised, yes.

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                This is a sweepingly broad statement that you're twisting to your own advantage.

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                  I would agree with you but I don't think women are marginalised in my society. They may feel as if they are though because they're generally told they are. I will accept Muslim women are but most who I know actually accept being told what to do and not do and the abuse they receive. Less of the personal insults, huh?

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                  I would agree with you but I don't think women are marginalised in my society.

                  Then you don't agree with me, and you should look closer at your society, it's easy to overlook how certain groups are marginalized if you're not part of them. I recommend you read some posts in some women only communities (instead of trying to tell them how they should feel) to see the sort of thing they have to go through.

                  I get where you're coming from, on paper our society treats women equally, there are no written rules or outlandish inequalities, and some of what feminist complain is not even real, such as the gender pay gap. However that's not the same as saying there aren't any inequalities nor that it's even comparable. Yes, men do have issues in our society; Yes we need to address those; No, we shouldn't laugh at me for opening up about their issues; Yes, men can have safe spaces where they talk about their issues without having women judge them for it. And all of that is the same for women, there are lots of ways in which our society treats women as inferior and if you can't recognize that there's really nothing else to tell you than "pay more attention", but there's no worse blind that those who don't want to see, so I'm sure there's nothing I can tell you that will make you stop and listen and look around, talk to your mom, sister, or some women you know and trust, listen to their stories about that time their boss slap their ass or their ex-boyfriend forced himself on them, or even the time the creepy guy started following them around.

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                    This is a sweepingly broad statement that you're twisting to your own advantage.

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                    They made a good call to keep you out, lol

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