Proton has stopped using their Mastodon account
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Pointing people to reddit, as if that's an alternative. When a VPN provider makes such bad choices it's tempting to imagine that the decision was influenced by somebody who wants to secretly get the message out that the company is no longer to be trusted, because it's hard to see any other logic in it.
Reddit has a ton of users. Mastodon is marginal.
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Glad I was always suspicious of Proton.
Something has always felt off. Swiss security is always a red flag, and free is never truly free. Don't really know who you can trust at this point. Everything seems to turn to shit as some point or another.
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A human being.
Whoever posts on reddit can copy paste to other platforms, if they are to lazy to use a software that consolidates it for them.
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I'm not, they are a bunch of researchers having their servers in the country with the most privacy protective laws in the world.
Sure, criticise them when they do bad things, but what do you propose, google mail (etc.)?
If you don't have some real information you are just following a gut feeling (which by the way is the simplest to manipulate) and I think that is kind of curious actually.
I like Proton, I have their email & VPN, works like a charm, and their servers are in nuke safe bunkers in the swiss mountains.
The only other company that I have seen that isn't shady like for sure seems to be Mullvad, I mean if you hate the swiss or something or prefer the swedes ...
Hard to claim manipulation when the leadership team is taking a machine gun to their feet.
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Something has always felt off. Swiss security is always a red flag, and free is never truly free. Don't really know who you can trust at this point. Everything seems to turn to shit as some point or another.
On the other hand, the red flag is a big plus.
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@mailbox_org@[email protected] are running their own mastodon server and it's an excellent mail service provider. @[email protected] are also present on Mastodon and is likewise an excellent mail service provider.
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Out of curiosity, where did you move from Proton?
I was using mainly the emails from proton, I moved to mailbox.
At one point I was planning on moving my drive and VPN with them but their Linux support was really lacking, especially the CLI support so I've never done it and I'm glad I didn't.
For the VPN I'm using Mullvad integrated with tailscale, for the drive in using my own synology NAS and tailscale to connect to it.
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@mailbox_org@[email protected] are running their own mastodon server and it's an excellent mail service provider. @[email protected] are also present on Mastodon and is likewise an excellent mail service provider.
@mok0 @flamingos Thanks for recommending us! We have no plans to leave Mastodon
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Do they really need a team of people to post the same thing to X, Mastodon, BkueSky, etc? I'm honestly surprised they don't have some bot to make all the posts for them to those services. Sounds like a cop out to me.
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I think their comment was tongue in cheek
like they're saying you need to pay for server maintenanceYou can get a gmail or proton email and just use it like we use phones now...call suppliers, buy shit, etc....just not for family connections. For that we use encryption.
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Is it only me or is there some bandwagon effect on Proton hate these days?
I get it that everyone, me included, thought that sucking up to donald is a shit move, but that's about it. Proton is good.
Totally. People are exaggerating. Proton really is a good service and the only real answer to Google where you have everything under one account.
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Such delicate snowflakes these ceos…
I do think the second part of your statement was unnecessary.
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"State your ethics and then stand by them" is being hard headed?
When the above is a bar too high for you to reach, that's a you problem, mate.
You said
Stating your ethics and then not enforcing them makes the statement pointless.
Explain to me what ethics did they not enforce?
Hint: none.
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Do they really need a team of people to post the same thing to X, Mastodon, BkueSky, etc? I'm honestly surprised they don't have some bot to make all the posts for them to those services. Sounds like a cop out to me.
Exactly. If they need help maybe someone could create something so they can post to BlueSky, Matrix, Lemmy, and Mastadon at same time soon. Also set it up for the up and coming Flashes and Pixelfed.
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Protón is just a bunch of criptonazis
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Do they really need a team of people to post the same thing to X, Mastodon, BkueSky, etc? I'm honestly surprised they don't have some bot to make all the posts for them to those services. Sounds like a cop out to me.
They specifically said they don't want to do automated posting, to avoid writing and not interacting with the community. I see no value in them doing this, considering we can get the same content via RSS, blog page or email newsletter.
Presence makes sense if it means presence. If it means a bot reposting content, anybody can do it, but the value is very low. -
Something has always felt off. Swiss security is always a red flag, and free is never truly free. Don't really know who you can trust at this point. Everything seems to turn to shit as some point or another.
In case of proton free means "subsidized by paying users". No big mystery on how they make money.
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That word has truly lost all meaning.
Nah, just they are to common and normalize now.
And you normalize them more if you dont like to call them by they name.
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This might sound crazy but this is way worse to me than the CEO simping for orange man. At least for Trump he has a semi plausible excuse.
Reposting stuff on Mastodon or Bluesky barely requires any additional effort. And I cannot think of a good reason to close abandon the free publicity when they already have it set up.
(Re)Posting and not engaging with the community is not free publicity, is bad publicity. They don't have the resources (according to them) do to the latter, and therefore they choose not to do the former.
