Whatever happened to Data Poisoning?
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So, I've been on Lemmy since the great Reddit exodus a couple years ago, and back on Reddit though, there were discussions on Data Poisoning, where since it was nigh unto impossible to keep your data private, people would poison their data with all sorts of extraneous information, so companies couldn't tell what data was accurate and what wasn't.
But, here on Lemmy, I haven't seen any discussions about the topic. Are people still poisoning their data? Why haven't I seen any discussions about it? Is it still discussed, just not on the instances I've seen?
I came to Lemmy to leave Reddit behind. To still be pissed about Reddit enough to bother fucking with it would be giving it too much presence in my thoughts.
Plus so I wouldn't be tempted to go back early on , I set my password to something random.
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I came to Lemmy to leave Reddit behind. To still be pissed about Reddit enough to bother fucking with it would be giving it too much presence in my thoughts.
Plus so I wouldn't be tempted to go back early on , I set my password to something random.
I guess OP is wondering why we don't talk about data poisoning on Lemmy data?
Can be wrong though.
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I guess OP is wondering why we don't talk about data poisoning on Lemmy data?
Can be wrong though.
Oh. Could be. Doesn't make senses to me to poison the platform you're on, though. I do see a few folks who delete their stuff over a certain age, though.
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Oh. Could be. Doesn't make senses to me to poison the platform you're on, though. I do see a few folks who delete their stuff over a certain age, though.
I remember something about a plugin that would just flood your tracking data with random garbage. I know nothing about the data processing, but it makes sense to me that if a tracker is expecting 1.5MB of information per visitor and is now getting 20MB of random crap, they would struggle to figure out anything meaningful.
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Haha. I remember booting up my work PC and there being a copilot button in the browser. Clicked it out of curiosity and it transformed my well-written text into incoherent garbage. It literally made up new words.
Wonder if it’s because of stuff like this. Probably not, but I hope.
My company added grammarly onto all our laptops which cannot be permanently disabled. So I have a grammarly suggester widget floating over everything I do on the laptop. I just accept all suggestions no matter how dumb and inappropriate and put garbage in slack conversations, code reviews, etc.
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So, I've been on Lemmy since the great Reddit exodus a couple years ago, and back on Reddit though, there were discussions on Data Poisoning, where since it was nigh unto impossible to keep your data private, people would poison their data with all sorts of extraneous information, so companies couldn't tell what data was accurate and what wasn't.
But, here on Lemmy, I haven't seen any discussions about the topic. Are people still poisoning their data? Why haven't I seen any discussions about it? Is it still discussed, just not on the instances I've seen?
I'm only aware of AdNauseam and Nightshade, what other tools are available?
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That takes way more CPU and RAM resources that most Lemmy/PieFed hosts dont care to purchase for something that could be trivially done by the individual user.
That makes sense. Your right the instances are often surviving off of donated time and cash.
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WE NOTICED YOU RECENTLY JUST BOUGHT A BASKETBALL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ADS OF BASKETBALLS EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE NEXT YEAR ALTHOUGH YOU ALREADY BOUGHT ONE?
wrote last edited by [email protected]The even worse variation is car parts.
WE NOTICED YOU BOUGHT THIS CAR PART FOR YOUR TOYOTA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ADS FOR THE SAME PART ON DIFFERENT CAR BRANDS?
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Way, way back in the early days of the internet when it was still all just message boards and users from universities there were discussions about data poisoning. The early forebears of users today had enough foresight to understand what the internet could be if it went the wrong way and started a collaborative project to develop tools as technology developed to combat it. They managed to keep up the project, legacy developers would move on or die but new ones sprang up in their place. It all fell apart way back in nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcers table.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Hmmm, top comment in an asklemmy thread is a joke, and the mods do nothing after 17+ hours?
We sure are speedrunning the reddit irrelevance arc aren't we?
As is tradition, both you and your instance are now blocked
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Hmmm, top comment in an asklemmy thread is a joke, and the mods do nothing after 17+ hours?
We sure are speedrunning the reddit irrelevance arc aren't we?
As is tradition, both you and your instance are now blocked
You really are living up to your username
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I have no idea about reddit but I poison copilot data daily at work. Feeding nonsense incorrect answers and misusing the thumbs up and down feedback. Sometimes I just generate max context nonsense text over and over to try and hit the API limit. We're not paying for the licenses because microsoft is trying to show us how awesome it is. But this week is my last week doing so because my company has decided its disabling copilot.
You're doing God's work.
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You really are living up to your username
Oh my I've never heard that clever turn of phrase before
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Oh my I've never heard that clever turn of phrase before
BTW, the only reason I decided not to block you is I did a quick flick-flick speed read down your recent posts and realized you seem to be a leftist of some sort, which to me means you've got a lot of reasons to be pissed constantly.
Still, being this level of enraged 24/7 is not good for you and is frankly not productive at all. Have you considered therapy? You gotta cool off at some point. And I dont know if you have some other underlying issue other than the "enhanced sense of justice" symptom of autism.
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Hmmm, top comment in an asklemmy thread is a joke, and the mods do nothing after 17+ hours?
We sure are speedrunning the reddit irrelevance arc aren't we?
As is tradition, both you and your instance are now blocked
I think the fact that their comment is the top comment indicates that the general populace of Lemmy like their comment, and to try and censor or block is just bizarre. It's like telling the community what they can and can't think.
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I think the fact that their comment is the top comment indicates that the general populace of Lemmy like their comment, and to try and censor or block is just bizarre. It's like telling the community what they can and can't think.
Yep and asshats just like you made this exact same fucking argument every day as reddit slid downhill and look where they are now
Your idealism is naive
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Hmmm, top comment in an asklemmy thread is a joke, and the mods do nothing after 17+ hours?
We sure are speedrunning the reddit irrelevance arc aren't we?
As is tradition, both you and your instance are now blocked
It's a joke, but also an example of data poisoning. Pretty clever.
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Hmmm, top comment in an asklemmy thread is a joke, and the mods do nothing after 17+ hours?
We sure are speedrunning the reddit irrelevance arc aren't we?
As is tradition, both you and your instance are now blocked
Deep breath. Read the joke again. It’s relevant.
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Yep and asshats just like you made this exact same fucking argument every day as reddit slid downhill and look where they are now
Your idealism is naive
Reddit was malmanaged by a money-hungry C-suite and investors. Blaming the downfall of reddit solely on the users is naive.
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So, I've been on Lemmy since the great Reddit exodus a couple years ago, and back on Reddit though, there were discussions on Data Poisoning, where since it was nigh unto impossible to keep your data private, people would poison their data with all sorts of extraneous information, so companies couldn't tell what data was accurate and what wasn't.
But, here on Lemmy, I haven't seen any discussions about the topic. Are people still poisoning their data? Why haven't I seen any discussions about it? Is it still discussed, just not on the instances I've seen?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Given the shit that AI does, like deleting databases and lying about it, or telling people looking for support to kill themselves, why did you think data poisoning does not work?
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Reddit was malmanaged by a money-hungry C-suite and investors. Blaming the downfall of reddit solely on the users is naive.
Oh trust me I had an ongoing feud with the reddit C-suites long before the drumpf enshittining.
