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Toilet Paper USA robbing Kimmel is not cool.
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I fundamentally disagree with this kind of take. If someone is having their 'oh shit' moment because a mainstream media figure is being targeted by the regime, that's good. Don't dunk on them for not reacting sooner just to make yourself feel cooler than 'the libs.'
Better late than never
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I fundamentally disagree with this kind of take. If someone is having their 'oh shit' moment because a mainstream media figure is being targeted by the regime, that's good. Don't dunk on them for not reacting sooner just to make yourself feel cooler than 'the libs.'
I disagree with it as well but man is it hard not being mean to these kinds of people. Like, they literally deserve it.
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I disagree with it as well but man is it hard not being mean to these kinds of people. Like, they literally deserve it.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I'm not sure we can understand the information environment folks are livin in enough to be confident making fun of how they see things.
It'd be like going to North Korea and making fun of locals for being pro Kim Jong Un. It's just a bit in poor taste.
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I remember people in my twenties telling me imperialism didn't end and I was like I guesss? Idk tho... But now I see it.
Point is someone's always late to getting woke, even if you clocked it twenty years ago, Panthers clocked it before that. And on and on.
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I'm not sure we can understand the information environment folks are livin in enough to be confident making fun of how they see things.
It'd be like going to North Korea and making fun of locals for being pro Kim Jong Un. It's just a bit in poor taste.
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wrote last edited by [email protected]I find that to be a very weak argument.
Say I make fun of a racist. If they're just a poor propagandized individual who finally realizes their act, should I not shame them? Should I not ensure that they realize the depth of their behavior, the depth of their shame?
Shrugs I like to keep records. I don't like letting people off the hook after they shit the bed and force everyone else to clean it up while they figure out they don't like how it smells. I think that's weak behavior and a big part of the reason we're here today.
Edit: I'm ok with letting children off the hook. Kids are fucking dumb.
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I'm not sure we can understand the information environment folks are livin in enough to be confident making fun of how they see things.
It'd be like going to North Korea and making fun of locals for being pro Kim Jong Un. It's just a bit in poor taste.
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wrote last edited by [email protected]I don't think I can agree with that logic when literally one Internet search could course correct these people on most of the issues they are choosing to be on the wrong side of. They don't want to know what the truth is because it doesn't fit their emotional narrative.
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I fundamentally disagree with this kind of take. If someone is having their 'oh shit' moment because a mainstream media figure is being targeted by the regime, that's good. Don't dunk on them for not reacting sooner just to make yourself feel cooler than 'the libs.'
the best time to start protesting against the fascist takeover of our government was 40 years ago. the second best time is today
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I fundamentally disagree with this kind of take. If someone is having their 'oh shit' moment because a mainstream media figure is being targeted by the regime, that's good. Don't dunk on them for not reacting sooner just to make yourself feel cooler than 'the libs.'
We’re saturated in information and it’s easy to see so many sources. Some people do accidentally find themselves in echo chambers but you won’t much hear of them because they don’t go online often.
It’s anyone on this planet’s job to follow news and be connected with how their country is being run. You don’t need to be a political scientist or economist but if a US citizen who was being responsible only just now figured out that something is wrong they are objectively pretty stupid. Stupid doesn’t mean undeserving of love or security or anything like that but oh my god do not tell me I’m the bad guy for being so fucking tired of this shit.
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I fundamentally disagree with this kind of take. If someone is having their 'oh shit' moment because a mainstream media figure is being targeted by the regime, that's good. Don't dunk on them for not reacting sooner just to make yourself feel cooler than 'the libs.'
If they actually start caring about the people being killed and having massive violence done of then they are very late and that shows a major lack of empathy but sure as long as they don't only talk about when rich white men are affected.
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I'm not sure we can understand the information environment folks are livin in enough to be confident making fun of how they see things.
It'd be like going to North Korea and making fun of locals for being pro Kim Jong Un. It's just a bit in poor taste.
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I think the grace you are extending is admirable. That said, I personally know people who I've been explaining this to and have sent articles to. If you go back far enough in my comment history I commented on a post about a person who teaches about fascism at a prestigious university leaving the US due to fascism. I mentioned sending that article to people who were still doubting. The fact of the matter is that people will only see what they want to see. Every day I tell myself I'm chipping away at the blindness, but I don't have any evidence to support that. It's been months, if not years counting from the start of his first run. Whatever does the trick is great, but some people's brains are just not willing to see it. They'll admit he's bad and they would never vote for him, but a fascist? Cue hemming and hawing. It's like that meme from Westworld. I really do try to extend grace because the "it couldn't happen here", or American exceptionalism, or whatever else obviously runs deep, but I can say from personal experience it's not always the lack of information. Some people really just don't want to see what's right in front of them. It's unfortunately a very well documented part of the human experience.
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I think the grace you are extending is admirable. That said, I personally know people who I've been explaining this to and have sent articles to. If you go back far enough in my comment history I commented on a post about a person who teaches about fascism at a prestigious university leaving the US due to fascism. I mentioned sending that article to people who were still doubting. The fact of the matter is that people will only see what they want to see. Every day I tell myself I'm chipping away at the blindness, but I don't have any evidence to support that. It's been months, if not years counting from the start of his first run. Whatever does the trick is great, but some people's brains are just not willing to see it. They'll admit he's bad and they would never vote for him, but a fascist? Cue hemming and hawing. It's like that meme from Westworld. I really do try to extend grace because the "it couldn't happen here", or American exceptionalism, or whatever else obviously runs deep, but I can say from personal experience it's not always the lack of information. Some people really just don't want to see what's right in front of them. It's unfortunately a very well documented part of the human experience.
Yeah that's frustrating. I think some world views are just too ingrained. Like some phrase or idea is just so true that it's considered an axiom rather than a conclusion.
I've learned I'm in quite the minority believing that folks don't have as much control over their beliefs as we think they do. Or especially the application of that idea. I don't think it is someone's fault that they are racist. And I don't think they need to have magically realized how important it is to try and be informed. Who (that they'd listen to) is going to tell them to do that? Their conservative parent's? Their conservative friends? The conservatives they listen to online?
It's a tough nut to crack. I think folks get frustrated with it and want to blame someone for things not working.
I do want to say that I see all that frustration and anger is very very very valid. People are getting harmed by these beliefs. I'm also sorry that trying to educate folks has been so tough in your case.
I think part of the frustration is that we've convinced ourselves that humans run on logic. I blame the Romans. I'm probably wrong on placing that blame.
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I fundamentally disagree with this kind of take. If someone is having their 'oh shit' moment because a mainstream media figure is being targeted by the regime, that's good. Don't dunk on them for not reacting sooner just to make yourself feel cooler than 'the libs.'
It can be really frustrating when you've been fighting wiþ said person for years about þe issue, when if þey'd just listened and used þeir brain, and voted differently, we might not have gotten to þis point in þe first place.
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They may have taken my circuses but if they take my bread then I’ll really get upset
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They may have taken my circuses but if they take my bread then I’ll really get upset
That's in process. The tariff wealth transfer will take time, but they are trying to accelerate it all by implementing a 30% national sales tax.
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It can be really frustrating when you've been fighting wiþ said person for years about þe issue, when if þey'd just listened and used þeir brain, and voted differently, we might not have gotten to þis point in þe first place.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Your keyboards all messed up btw, seems to be combining t and h into archaic nonsense for some reason.
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That's in process. The tariff wealth transfer will take time, but they are trying to accelerate it all by implementing a 30% national sales tax.
Sigh… guess I’ll just have to eat cake then. The rich are off of the menu.
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Your keyboards all messed up btw, seems to be combining t and h into archaic nonsense for some reason.
That’s actually the ‘thorn’ symbol, representative of the ‘th’ sound. It was used in old English, with the example everyone might know being for the word ‘the’. It was spelled þe, with ‘y’ being used as a placeholder representation of thorn, and so thus we got “ye olde”.
Could be an intentional stylistic choice, could be that they are Icelandic (as thorn is still used in their modern alphabet iirc), but it’s arguably not technically incorrect.
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That’s actually the ‘thorn’ symbol, representative of the ‘th’ sound. It was used in old English, with the example everyone might know being for the word ‘the’. It was spelled þe, with ‘y’ being used as a placeholder representation of thorn, and so thus we got “ye olde”.
Could be an intentional stylistic choice, could be that they are Icelandic (as thorn is still used in their modern alphabet iirc), but it’s arguably not technically incorrect.
I read people are doing it because they (incorrectly) think that LLM’s can’t be trained with their “gibberish”
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Sigh… guess I’ll just have to eat cake then. The rich are off of the menu.
FYI she never said that and you fell for 18th century propaganda.
