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Trump says US will 'go as far as we have to' to get control of Greenland

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  • sarcasticman@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    He just announced foreign vehicle tariffs and there is a huge scandal brewing around the Signal thing. If the media stays on the Signal leak it could become a Watergate-sized problem.

    So, Trump hit the "distract them with Greenland" button. He couldn't use the "distract them with Canada is a state" button again, he used that one for the Social Security thing last week.

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    Yeah he led an insurrection against the capital bro. Do you really think a group chat will be his downfall?

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      I think it’s really dangerous to keep dismissing the Greenland talk as a distraction. We have learned the lesson dozens of times before not to dismiss anything he says because it’s just “crazy talk.”

      Taking control of Greenland and Canada would give a US-Russian alliance complete control over the Arctic circle, which has been a tactical goal of Putin’s for decades.

      The day could come very soon when the US will take military action against Europe on behalf of Russian interests, and the rest of the world should take it seriously and prepare.

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      I remember talking to this dude before Russia invaded Ukraine. He said Russia brought all the troops to the border for a military training exercise. I asked him where he learned that. He told me Russian state media... It's amazing how gullible people are. Like truly so innocent and trusting.

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        Yeah he led an insurrection against the capital bro. Do you really think a group chat will be his downfall?

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        Nowhere in there did I say it would bring down Trump. If it gets the media traction that it should get, it could split the Republican base enough to disrupt the Right's hold on the House and Senate in November. I don't think it will, though. The Greenland distraction has pretty much drowned it out. JD is over there going hard for his daddy, and we are not even through the weekend yet. As the old man said, "We will see."

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          When the hell will the military arrest this stinky Orange Turd as an enemy to the state?

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          If he actually orders an invasion of Greenland I'd put the odds at around 12%. My guess is around 60% the military will refuse to carry out the order (it would be after all in violation of the War Powers Resolution unless congress approves), then 80% chance Trump will back down. Of course that's if he gives the order, my guess of that is around 30%, reducing the odds of a greenland-related coup to around 4%. In reality the most likely path is that once the military explains to Trump that they want congressional approval, he'll lose interest and go on to scaring us some other way.

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            Push back how?

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            By playing a wholllllle lot of Minecraft 😉

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              I think it’s really dangerous to keep dismissing the Greenland talk as a distraction. We have learned the lesson dozens of times before not to dismiss anything he says because it’s just “crazy talk.”

              Taking control of Greenland and Canada would give a US-Russian alliance complete control over the Arctic circle, which has been a tactical goal of Putin’s for decades.

              The day could come very soon when the US will take military action against Europe on behalf of Russian interests, and the rest of the world should take it seriously and prepare.

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              He's 100% serious and also using it as a distraction. Both things are true. For some reason everyone cares about the signal leak and only about half of us care about invading Greenland, or rendering immigrants to a slave prison.

              Signal is a weakness and Greenland is an attempt at distraction. He fully intends to invade, but distraction is why he's talking about it right now.

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                Every time an American claims something is just a distraction I get more annoyed. Threats of invading sovereign nations is not just a distraction. It’s pretty fucking alarming as a citizen of one of those nations and the dismissal of it is offensive

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                It's pretty alarming as a citizen of the US as well. But our conservatives are upset over the signal leak and indifferent to the invasion of Greenland, so if we let trump distract is with the signal leak you lose.

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                  You don't understand.

                  People, everyday Americans don't matter at all.

                  The trade war will destroy him, not because it hurts regular Americans, but because it hurts the rich and pisses them off and nobody messes with their meal ticket.

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                  The trade war appears to be about market manipulation. And sewing distrust of America. By repeatedly flip flopping they can buy and sell and make a killing in the markets. His wealthy allies are in on it and won't care at all.

                  This is what he was elected to do and it won't hurt him at all with the people who matter.

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                    The trade war appears to be about market manipulation. And sewing distrust of America. By repeatedly flip flopping they can buy and sell and make a killing in the markets. His wealthy allies are in on it and won't care at all.

                    This is what he was elected to do and it won't hurt him at all with the people who matter.

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                    It's about dividing the West so the oligarchs, all the oligarchs everywhere, can take control.

                    Stupid oligarchs, China knows no such rules.

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                      It's about dividing the West so the oligarchs, all the oligarchs everywhere, can take control.

                      Stupid oligarchs, China knows no such rules.

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                      That's what I intended with sewing distrust. It certainly looks like market manipulation to me as well though.

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