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What is the most dangerous ideology in the world and what makes it dangerous?

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    Greed.

    Religion has been said, but religion is always just the excuse for justifying greed

    Belief that some unfalsafiable deity is behind you, and therefore any of your actions are righteous is incredibly dangerous, because there's no accountability. How many atrocities are justified by religion, and the belief that justice will be done in the next life?

    Religion is used to justify things like the fascist movement currently sweeping through the US, abhorrent regimes in the middle-east, and the subjugation of people (particularly women) everywhere

    Of course, religion is the justification, but the real objective is to gather more wealth and power

    From the mega-churches in the US, to the Vatican, to the mullah in a village somewhere in the world, it's all about having more

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      Came here to say fascism, but you win. Religion is worse...

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      I think of all superstitions as being a microcosmic form of fascism in a way, in that the mouthpiece of the supernatural is the one dictating the rules of right and wrong and what can transcend reality.

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        Name an ideological concept that has led to more killing and death then religion...

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        Natalism?

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          Fascism. It makes people loose their humanity. Fascists endure anything as long as people outside their group are suffering.

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            Came here to say fascism, but you win. Religion is worse...

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            Especially since people use religion to bolster fascism. Fascists love to pander to a nation’s largest religion to lock in their support.

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              Islam. A combination of misogyny, oppressive laws, puritanical beliefs, child mutilation, condemnation of curiosity, and a particular focus on growth of numbers by both birth and conversion. Other religions are close behind though.

              Edit: Didn't realise the OP was called Allah, lol

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              Didn't realise the OP was called Allah

              Yeah, that and their defence of religion makes me question whether or not they ask this in good faith

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                Name an ideological concept that has led to more killing and death then religion...

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                dogmatism

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                  Didn't realise the OP was called Allah

                  Yeah, that and their defence of religion makes me question whether or not they ask this in good faith

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                  no i am genuinely curious

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                    Came here to say fascism, but you win. Religion is worse...

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                    some say fascism is a form of religion

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                      Islam. A combination of misogyny, oppressive laws, puritanical beliefs, child mutilation, condemnation of curiosity, and a particular focus on growth of numbers by both birth and conversion. Other religions are close behind though.

                      Edit: Didn't realise the OP was called Allah, lol

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                      yeah that's my middle name, i don't think i can change your mind but i will say this that majority of followers of islam have bad beliefs

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                        Isaac Asimov famously said, “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”.

                        The idea that any idea is worth listening to because someone believes in it.

                        Show me the proof.

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                        I think any idea is worth listening to, it's the assertion that we must inherently accept their viewpoint as valid that is outright absurd.

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                          Beauty. It gives everybody the illusion that they can decide or at least criticize everything. We will end with an unstable system where control becomes impossible and things collapse.

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                            Nazism seem to be the worst since it's an awful mix of nationalism, imperialism, totalitarianism, state racism, eugenics.

                            A nazi state basically invades its neighbors and genocide their inhabitants based on race, community or health condition.

                            So far, only the Third Reich applied it, leading to World War II and the Holocaust, but Japan applied some similar behavior in Asia during WWII.

                            Bonus point: it doesn't even oppose capitalism, so rich people can still greed.

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                              Capitalism is well on its way to making the planet uninhabitable so Imma have to go with that.

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                                TESCREAL
                                Because it serves as an excuse for the oligarchs to do whatever they want regardless of the current impact of their actions with the promise of future benefits

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                                  The certainty of being right.

                                  Why? Because when (any)one is sure to be right it means the other must be wrong and since they're wrong they probably should not even be allowed to say what they have to say.

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                                    Neither is this about an ideology per se nor is this quote my own - but I've read this somewhere -

                                    "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it."

                                    • Robert Swan (British explorer and environmental activist)
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                                      Neoliberalism. The belief that owners of corporations should be able to do whatever the fuck they want, because corporations always create the best outcome possible for society.

                                      The result is stuff like the US Opioid Crisis. Purdue Pharma knew that opioid pharmaceuticals were extremely addictive. For decades, they lied and said it was not addictive. In private, they laughed about their victims.

                                      They bribed doctors and dentists to overprescribe it:

                                      https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/health/purdue-opioids-oxycontin.html

                                      https://www.latimes.com/projects/oxycontin-part1/

                                      They also paid think-tanks to defend them and aggressively challenged negative media coverage:

                                      https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-purdue-pharma-media-playbook-how-it-planted-the-opioid-anti-story

                                      The tobacco companies used the same techniques before western governments cracked down on them.

                                      In the 90s, they tried to prevent governments from acting by bribing politicians:

                                      An NPR review of McConnell's relationship with the tobacco industry over the decades has found that McConnell repeatedly cast doubt on the health consequences of smoking, repeated industry talking points word-for-word, attacked federal regulators at the industry's request and opposed bipartisan tobacco regulations going back decades.

                                      Soon after McConnell won a U.S. Senate seat, he was invited to the Tobacco Institute's boardroom to give a speech in January 1985. The documents also reveal that McConnell and his Senate office frequently accepted gifts from tobacco industry lobbyists

                                      The gifts included tickets to NFL and NBA games, a production of Dostoevsky's Crime And Punishment, a Ringo Starr concert, "top-quality brandy," and what McConnell called a "beautiful ham."

                                      When McConnell has sought re-election, tobacco company employees and PACs have typically donated to McConnell more than to any other member of Congress, according to data from the Center For Responsive Politics. Since 1989, he has received at least $650,000

                                      One of the most striking episodes revealed in the tobacco industry documents came in October 1998. Just a few months earlier, McConnell helped defeat major tobacco legislation championed by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

                                      The McCain bill would have ratified and strengthened the proposed settlement between the tobacco industry and attorneys general from most of the states. It would have also allowed FDA regulation of nicotine and penalized companies that failed to reduce teen smoking.

                                      McConnell, who had repeatedly clashed with McCain over campaign finance legislation, helped lead the opposition. "We know, of course, that only 2% of smokers are teenagers," McConnell said.

                                      (In fact, nearly 90% of all smokers begin before they turn 18 years old.)

                                      "That to me is the most egregious incident that I have seen about the appearance of corruption since I have been a member of the United States Senate," McCain later said of McConnell

                                      https://www.npr.org/2019/06/17/730496066/tobaccos-special-friend-what-internal-documents-say-about-mitch-mcconnell

                                      In many countries, tobacco corporations are still using mafia methods:

                                      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/big-tobacco-dirty-war-africa-market

                                      For neoliberals, the corporations should decide what is acceptable or not. If there is a profitable market for something, then it means it should be legal. Period. They don't give a shit about selling addictive poison to kids, destroying the environment or underpaying workers. Corporate profits are their religion.

                                      Neoliberals believe citizens or lawmakers should never try to fix injustice, because corporations can't create injustice. And if they want to be involved and threaten corporate profits, you have to punch them in the nose.

                                      In 1951, Jacobo Árbenz was democratically elected President of Guatemala. He wanted to tax rich banana companies and ensure they didn't own all the land. So the United Fruit Company lobbied the CIA to overthrow him. Allen Dulles, the director of the CIA, accepted immediately. His brother, wealthy businessman John Foster Dulles, was chairman of United Fruits International. So the President Árbenz was violently overthrowed. At least 9000 people were killed.

                                      That's extreme neoliberalism.

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                                        Didn't realise the OP was called Allah

                                        Yeah, that and their defence of religion makes me question whether or not they ask this in good faith

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                                        I'm surprised by the number of downvotes I got, not that I particularly care about them per se, but the implication that so many people are either Muslim or support Islam on Lemmy is worrying.

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                                          yeah that's my middle name, i don't think i can change your mind but i will say this that majority of followers of islam have bad beliefs

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                                          If most Muslims have bad beliefs, what's the common denominator/cause?

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