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Self-Driving Tesla Crashes into Wall Painted to Look Like a Road… Just Months Before Planned Robotaxi Launch

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    Wow you guys even lost the ability to do syntax. I guess it was only a matter of time.

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    Not only can the right still not meme, it has apparently also lost all ability to recognize meme.

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    • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

      Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

      Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

      The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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      Don't want to rock the boat but apart from being a you tube money earner this doesn't prove or disprove anything. A lot of humans would be fooled by this also.

      I am suspicious of the way the polystyrene wall broke in cartoon like shagged edges, almost like they were precut.

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        Don't want to rock the boat but apart from being a you tube money earner this doesn't prove or disprove anything. A lot of humans would be fooled by this also.

        I am suspicious of the way the polystyrene wall broke in cartoon like shagged edges, almost like they were precut.

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        What would the wall being precut have to do with the car deciding to drive through it?

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          Don't want to rock the boat but apart from being a you tube money earner this doesn't prove or disprove anything. A lot of humans would be fooled by this also.

          I am suspicious of the way the polystyrene wall broke in cartoon like shagged edges, almost like they were precut.

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          The point of the test is to demonstrate that vision-only, which Tesla has adopted is inadequate. A car with lidar or radar would have been able to "see" that the car was approaching an obstacle without being fooled by the imagary.

          So yes, it seems a bit silly, but the underlying point is legitimate. If the software is fooled by this, then can you ever fully trust it? Especially when sensor systems exist that don't have this problem at all. Would you want to be a pedestrian in a crosswalk with this car bearing down on you in FSD?

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            Still astounded people use anything other than the subscription section on YouTube.

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            That would require signing in and allowing tracking.

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            • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

              Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

              Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

              The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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              Is this video being suppressed by the YouTube algorithm? I wonder if it's because of Tesla or Disney. Or maybe it's because of simulated child harm?

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                The actual wall is way more convincing though.

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                A camera will show it as being more convincing than it is. It would be way more obvious in real life when seen with two eyes. These kinds of murals are only convincing from one specific point.

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                  What would the wall being precut have to do with the car deciding to drive through it?

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                  Yes but the main point that has been shown is that putting a screen up with the exact copy of the road and surroundings behind the screen is a daft and dangerous idea. It would be a better test if they had put up a polystyrene tree in the middle of the road and then checked if the car stopped.

                  I have never driven through a polystyrene wall with a picture of a road on it in 40 years because people just don't put those things up, they don't grow on roads etc etc.

                  Great YT clip for entertainment though.

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                    I seem to recall that fElon prevented the self driving team from utilizing LIDAR for any part of the system, instead demanding that everything run off of optical input. Does anyone else remember the same?

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                    Tesla never had LIDAR. That's the little spinny thing you see on Waymo cars. They had RADAR, and yes it was removed in 2021 due to supply shortages and just...never reinstalled.

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                      What would the wall being precut have to do with the car deciding to drive through it?

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                      Nothing much is real anymore on YT

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                        algorithm-driven platform

                        And what is this "algorithm" based on? Actual user behavior. So the way to correct an algorithm is to change actual user behavior, no?

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                        And what is this "algorithm" based on?

                        No one knows.

                        Actual user behavior. So the way to correct an algorithm is to change actual user behavior, no?

                        Definitely not. I pretty much exclusively get recommended garbage content, and 90% of it is already on the "trending" page. At least it was like 3 years ago before I stopped using any of YTs first-party front-ends.

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                          Don't want to rock the boat but apart from being a you tube money earner this doesn't prove or disprove anything. A lot of humans would be fooled by this also.

                          I am suspicious of the way the polystyrene wall broke in cartoon like shagged edges, almost like they were precut.

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                          It may not rise to the level of proof, but it is a memorable and easily understood demonstration of something already proven by car safety researchers, as mentioned in the article.

                          Why shouldn't they precut the wall into cartoony shapes? It adds entertainment and doesn't compromise the demonstration.

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                            That would require signing in and allowing tracking.

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                            Most 3rd party clients support RSS subscriptions.

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                            • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                              Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                              Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                              The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                              That's some Wiley Coyote shit if I ever saw it.

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                              • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                                Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                                Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                                The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                                I remember Elon foolishly saying his cars don’t need radar or lidar. Even software-disabling radar in cars that already had the hardware.

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                                • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                                  Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                                  Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                                  The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                                  New stuff to add to the car kit bag for the 21st century

                                  1. poster board to block usonic weapons
                                  2. black paint, white paint, roller, brush to paint tunnels on walls
                                  3. orange cones to pen in self driving cars
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                                    It may not rise to the level of proof, but it is a memorable and easily understood demonstration of something already proven by car safety researchers, as mentioned in the article.

                                    Why shouldn't they precut the wall into cartoony shapes? It adds entertainment and doesn't compromise the demonstration.

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                                    Yep agreed. Having used Teslas adaptive cruise control I wouldn't ever use self driving, not that I have it, unless I had a death wish. Quite honestly my previous Chinese MG was a lot less likely to kill me.

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                                      And what is this "algorithm" based on?

                                      No one knows.

                                      Actual user behavior. So the way to correct an algorithm is to change actual user behavior, no?

                                      Definitely not. I pretty much exclusively get recommended garbage content, and 90% of it is already on the "trending" page. At least it was like 3 years ago before I stopped using any of YTs first-party front-ends.

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                                      Presumably, the "algorithm" is based on whatever is most profitable. So probably some combination of most viewers, best ad engagement (click through rate), and best conversion/appeal to Premium subs.

                                      That's assuming YouTube's primary goal is to make money, and which it should be as part of a publicly traded company.

                                      My point is that those thumbnails and titles work, so if we want something different, we need to reward better thumbnails and titles and stop engaging w/ poor ones.

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                                        Nothing much is real anymore on YT

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                                        They were expecting this result to be possible. What were they supposed to do? Slam the car into the side if a building?

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                                          Yes but the main point that has been shown is that putting a screen up with the exact copy of the road and surroundings behind the screen is a daft and dangerous idea. It would be a better test if they had put up a polystyrene tree in the middle of the road and then checked if the car stopped.

                                          I have never driven through a polystyrene wall with a picture of a road on it in 40 years because people just don't put those things up, they don't grow on roads etc etc.

                                          Great YT clip for entertainment though.

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                                          Have you never heard of a mural before?

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