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Self-Driving Tesla Crashes into Wall Painted to Look Like a Road… Just Months Before Planned Robotaxi Launch

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  • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

    Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

    Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

    The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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    Show someone footage of 9/11 and they‘ll think of 2001. Show someone footage of a burning or crashing Tesla 20 years from now and they‘ll think of 2025.

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    • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

      Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

      Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

      The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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      • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

        I'm so glad I wasn't the only person who immediately thought "This is some Wile E. Coyote shit."

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        I mean, it is also referenced in the article and even in the summary from OP.

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        • geekwithsoul@lemm.eeG [email protected]

          Something like this? https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2022/10/31/former-head-of-tesla-ai-explains-why-theyve-removed-sensors-others-differ/

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          That might actually be the exact article I'm thinking about. Thanks!

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          • kokesh@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

            Came here to actually write this. Everyone remembers that. He made Tesler the hated shit it is today.

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            As a space nut I seriously hope that he never gets a chance to do anything similar with SpaceX. Thankfully he's mostly been kept away from important things thus far.

            Don't get me wrong, I know SpaceX's closet is overflowing with skeletons. But since Congress has been so kind as to continuously cut NASA's budget for the last few decades, I have to rely on SpaceX and other private companies to keep our space endeavors going.

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            • tja@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

              I mean, it is also referenced in the article and even in the summary from OP.

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              And extensively in the video too.

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              • paraphrand@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                I remember there being claims from him or his team about lidar being a dead end that would not scale as well as computer vision.

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                Yep! That's what I'm thinking of. It was Elmo. The real engineers objected.

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                • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                  Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                  Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                  The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                  geez, straight out of ACME.

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                    I read something a while back from a guy while wearing a T-shirt with a stop sign on it, a couple robotaxies stopped in front of him. It got me thinking you could cause some chaos walking around with a speed limit 65 shirt.

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                    I think one of my favorite examples was using simple salt to trap them within the confines of white lines that they didn't think they could cross over. I really appreciate the imagery of using salt circles to entrap the robotic demons ...

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                      I seem to recall that fElon prevented the self driving team from utilizing LIDAR for any part of the system, instead demanding that everything run off of optical input. Does anyone else remember the same?

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                      What's cool is that Teslas used to have radar sensors, at least, but Elon removed them from production to save money. Even if you have a car from back then, the software no longer uses them and they'll just physically unplug them the next time you have the car serviced, as it's just a drain on the battery at this point 🙃

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                      • robotzap10000@feddit.nlR [email protected]

                        Wile E Coyote painting a wall to look like a tunnel

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                        The actual wall is way more convincing though.

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                        • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                          Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                          Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                          The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                          Meep meep

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                          • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                            Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                            Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                            The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                            So its road runner rules in play here.

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                            • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                              Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                              Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                              The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                              This is a very good test, and the car should have past. That said though, I hate the click bait format where they show a stupidly obvious cartoonish wall, when the real wall is way more convincing.

                              The Video:

                              That sort of clickbait is 100% sure to get a "do not recommend channel" from me, I'm so sick of it. And it's sad when the video has such a good point.

                              The Clickbait

                              I can see it's kind of funny, but it's misleading.

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                                As a space nut I seriously hope that he never gets a chance to do anything similar with SpaceX. Thankfully he's mostly been kept away from important things thus far.

                                Don't get me wrong, I know SpaceX's closet is overflowing with skeletons. But since Congress has been so kind as to continuously cut NASA's budget for the last few decades, I have to rely on SpaceX and other private companies to keep our space endeavors going.

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                                I'm (was) huge SpaceX nerd, but last year or so I'm less and less. He always was dumb narcissist asshole, but now I can't take it anymore. Also the idea that we've fucked up this planet and need to move somewhere else, by doing thousands of launches finishing this planet always made me sick. If someone would take him out, I probably would come back to liking the company.

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                                • mrscottytay@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                                  There's a lot of cars that check via camera too to double check, for missing/outdated information and for temporary speed limit signs.

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                                  Lots of places also have variable limit signs that get updated based on traffic, accidents etc.

                                  Here in NZ those seem to all be marked on the speed limit maps as 100km/h even if in some places the signs never go above 80.

                                  Ngauranga Gorge is one such location and I believe has the country's highest grossing speed camera.

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                                    The actual wall is way more convincing though.

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                                    still, this should be something the car ought to take into account. What if there's a glass in the way?

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                                      The actual wall is way more convincing though.

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                                      As much as i want to hate on tesla, seeing this, it hardly seems like a fair test.

                                      From the perspective of the car, it's almost perfectly lined up with the background. it's a very realistic painting, and any AI that is trained on image data would obviously struggle with this. AI doesn't have that human component that allows us to infer information based on context. We can see the boarders and know that they dont fit. They shouldn't be there, so even if the painting is perfectly lines up and looks photo realistic, we can know something is up because its got edges and a frame holding it up.

                                      This test, in the context of the title of this article, relies on a fairly dumb pretense that:

                                      1. Computers think like humans
                                      2. This is a realistic situation that a human driver would find themselves in (or that realistic paintings of very specific roads exist in nature)
                                      3. There is no chance this could be trained out of them. (If it mattered enough to do so)

                                      This doesnt just affect teslas. This affects any car that uses AI assistance for driving.

                                      Having said all that.... fuck elon musk and fuck his stupid cars.

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                                        still, this should be something the car ought to take into account. What if there's a glass in the way?

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                                        That might have been an even „simpler“ test.

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                                          As much as i want to hate on tesla, seeing this, it hardly seems like a fair test.

                                          From the perspective of the car, it's almost perfectly lined up with the background. it's a very realistic painting, and any AI that is trained on image data would obviously struggle with this. AI doesn't have that human component that allows us to infer information based on context. We can see the boarders and know that they dont fit. They shouldn't be there, so even if the painting is perfectly lines up and looks photo realistic, we can know something is up because its got edges and a frame holding it up.

                                          This test, in the context of the title of this article, relies on a fairly dumb pretense that:

                                          1. Computers think like humans
                                          2. This is a realistic situation that a human driver would find themselves in (or that realistic paintings of very specific roads exist in nature)
                                          3. There is no chance this could be trained out of them. (If it mattered enough to do so)

                                          This doesnt just affect teslas. This affects any car that uses AI assistance for driving.

                                          Having said all that.... fuck elon musk and fuck his stupid cars.

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                                          This doesnt just affect teslas. This affects any car that uses AI assistance for driving.

                                          Except for, you know.. cars that don't solely rely on optical input and have LiDAR for example

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