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Self-Driving Tesla Crashes into Wall Painted to Look Like a Road… Just Months Before Planned Robotaxi Launch

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  • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

    Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

    Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

    The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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      What's cool is that Teslas used to have radar sensors, at least, but Elon removed them from production to save money. Even if you have a car from back then, the software no longer uses them and they'll just physically unplug them the next time you have the car serviced, as it's just a drain on the battery at this point 🙃

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      they’ll just physically unplug them the next time you have the car serviced

      So, (looks at watch), in an hour?

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        We're far from perfect, please don't get me wrong, but self driving IS already even if not better when compared with most drivers in many situations. It's a low bar.

        https://storage.googleapis.com/waymo-uploads/files/documents/safety/Comparison of Waymo and Human-Driven Vehicles at 25M miles.pdf

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        Humans include those who are drunk. Real annalisys relies on data that should exist but those who have it never seem to talk about it.

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          Thanks no I hadn't. Is that available as a Firefox extension. I do most of my browsing on desktop.

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          The link is right there, you could've just clicked it instead of taking the time to write this question?!

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          • appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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            Still supports a creator pulling clickbait.
            The only way is to vote with views/retention.

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              As much as i want to hate on tesla, seeing this, it hardly seems like a fair test.

              From the perspective of the car, it's almost perfectly lined up with the background. it's a very realistic painting, and any AI that is trained on image data would obviously struggle with this. AI doesn't have that human component that allows us to infer information based on context. We can see the boarders and know that they dont fit. They shouldn't be there, so even if the painting is perfectly lines up and looks photo realistic, we can know something is up because its got edges and a frame holding it up.

              This test, in the context of the title of this article, relies on a fairly dumb pretense that:

              1. Computers think like humans
              2. This is a realistic situation that a human driver would find themselves in (or that realistic paintings of very specific roads exist in nature)
              3. There is no chance this could be trained out of them. (If it mattered enough to do so)

              This doesnt just affect teslas. This affects any car that uses AI assistance for driving.

              Having said all that.... fuck elon musk and fuck his stupid cars.

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              I agree that this just isn't a realistic problem, and that there are way more problems with Tesla's that are much more realistic.

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                yeah but if you share it with people, they'll still see the clickbait thumbnail, and that's the actual problem

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                • J [email protected]

                  I disagree with this being a good test. Where on earth would you find a wall on a road with a fotorealistic continuation of the road printed on it? This would trick many human drivers. Self driving cars fail in many realistic situations that are a lot more concerning. This is just clickbait.

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                  This YT channel definitely went all out on the cartoonish nature of this particular test, but the article describes other tests as well including running over mannequins representing children that other cars (Lexus) avoided.

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                    Humans include those who are drunk. Real annalisys relies on data that should exist but those who have it never seem to talk about it.

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                    And? Drunk driving is real. You don't get to hand wave those away.

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                    • K [email protected]

                      Imagine being in the middle of a friendly conversation where you ask a question and the person says, "Why are you asking me?? Just google it."

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                      Well, this is a forum, not an out-loud discussion, so those are 2 completely different scenarios

                      They were also already given the link, so I guess:

                      Imagine being in the middle of a friendly conversation where someone asks for something, you give it to them, and then they proceed to ask questions about it that could be answered by looking at the thing you gave them

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                        I disagree with this being a good test. Where on earth would you find a wall on a road with a fotorealistic continuation of the road printed on it? This would trick many human drivers. Self driving cars fail in many realistic situations that are a lot more concerning. This is just clickbait.

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                        You haven't seen what Teslas are in the news for lately?

                        It's not that crazy someone would put up a fake wall on some backroad to catch out inattentive Tesla drivers. Doesn't even need to be nearly as big and elaborate as this one. Any painted object would accomplish the same.

                        But the point of the video is that optical cameras are easily deceived, and Elon is lying to his customers that LiDAR is overrated and not necessary.

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                        • appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                          Still supports a creator pulling clickbait.
                          The only way is to vote with views/retention.

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                          But it only supports them if their video is then also good. I don't like clickbait, because I don't want to be tricked into my monkey brain looking at something. I do want to see good videos.

                          Just yesterday the algorithm found some guy doing tech videos. I watched a few of them and then sent a text to a friend who I thought would like it. He asked for a link so I pulled the guys channel up on my phone, and holy smokes, clickbait. If I hadn't seen the videos already I wouldn't have given that guy the time of day. But they are well thought out, interesting videos.

                          I'm not here to correct the world's poor behaviour. I'm here to watch good videos. De-arrow does a good job of that, it's quite interesting to see YouTube on a computer without it vs what I'm used to now.

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                          • medicsofanarchy@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                            they’ll just physically unplug them the next time you have the car serviced

                            So, (looks at watch), in an hour?

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                            So did they unplug it

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                            • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                              Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                              Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                              The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                              Was there a coyote or a roadrunner anywhere nearby?

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                                Imagine being in the middle of a friendly conversation where you ask a question and the person says, "Why are you asking me?? Just google it."

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                                I'm not the OP, so I wasn't having a conversation with them. But to me it gives off the vibe of "Random stranger, you should do all the work for me and provide all the answers, because I'm too lazy to do any of it myself."

                                Could just be me though 🤷

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                                • G [email protected]

                                  still, this should be something the car ought to take into account. What if there's a glass in the way?

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                                  Glass would be very interesting, might actually confuse lidar also.

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                                  • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                                    Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                                    Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                                    The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                                    bugs meme

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                                      I seem to recall that fElon prevented the self driving team from utilizing LIDAR for any part of the system, instead demanding that everything run off of optical input. Does anyone else remember the same?

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                                      Yes, I recall at the time experts saying it was a terrible mistake and Elon saying Machine learning will bridge the gap.

                                      The real reason was to increase margins.

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                                        YouTubers - especially large channels like this - constantly A/B test with different thumbnails and stick with whatever one drives the most traffic (no pun intended) to the video.

                                        You might not like it, but it’s unfortunately the reality of operating a content creation business on an algorithm-driven platform.

                                        There are plenty of channels I follow that make fantastic videos, but sometimes you have to tolerate the shitty thumbnails because that’s just the reality of the system they’re operating within.

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                                        algorithm-driven platform

                                        And what is this "algorithm" based on? Actual user behavior. So the way to correct an algorithm is to change actual user behavior, no?

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                                          Was there a coyote or a roadrunner anywhere nearby?

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                                          Yes, they do feature.

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