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I would prefer Jira over ServiceNow, my previous job had jira and it ran smooth, ServiceNow is just a clunky mess
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I've never understood the hatred for Teams. I don't particularly like Slack, and Teams (from my limited experience using it) doesn't seem that much worse.
I prefer the way Slack groups threaded conversations within a channel. Teams channels are clunky enough that we just end up using group chats instead.
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I would prefer Jira over ServiceNow, my previous job had jira and it ran smooth, ServiceNow is just a clunky mess
what's your feelings about freshservice?
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I would prefer Jira over ServiceNow, my previous job had jira and it ran smooth, ServiceNow is just a clunky mess
As a ServiceNow dev/admin, I support this opinion so hard.
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I've never understood the hatred for Teams. I don't particularly like Slack, and Teams (from my limited experience using it) doesn't seem that much worse.
On a 4k monitor you can still only get about 80 characters of monospaced font per line, because of the "negative space" fetish UX designers have.
Something dead simple like posting a stack trace, and then having someone able to, you know, read it... It's just not something teams really does well.
I can understand how the tooling probably does a ton of stuff that corporate users want (integrating with calendars, tons of access controls for spaces for important people to talk, etc) but for a dev working primarily with a handful of other devs and qas, there is a feature set mismatch. I can't begin to tell you how badly I don't give a shit about 99% of its features.
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next time my job asks me to install teams on my phone, I'm gonna hand them a list of rental costs for access to my phone/internet and to cover any security related issues.
I told them my os is non standard, Graphene, and if they need anything more than 2fa codes, it'd need to be on one of their devices.
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I've never understood the hatred for Teams. I don't particularly like Slack, and Teams (from my limited experience using it) doesn't seem that much worse.
For the most part I like teams, but the notification system is horribly, horribly broken. Everytime i think if finally muted the inane chatter on a channel, I get spammed yet again. Then there are the email notifications... um Microsoft I, like most of your customers, check my email, in Outlook, you know... the email client designed for email, with all the email related features, that has it's own notifications...
I swear, if I start getting teams notifications in outlook, I will fly to Redmond and start setting fires.
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My previous job was tech support for multiple companies. One of our clients was using Salesforce. Another client used Jira.
A handful of clients were using their own Teams to which I had to connect or run using Citrix and Pulse Secure/Ivanti. Sometimes I had to juggle between three or four Teams.
I'm so glad I quit. I can only hope my next employer won't use Teams, but I won't hold my breath.
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I told them my os is non standard, Graphene, and if they need anything more than 2fa codes, it'd need to be on one of their devices.
I have been doing that too for years: I tolerate Gmail for my work account because I like having updates on my phone, and the 2FA go in my own Bitwarden account. I refuse anything else.
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I've never understood the hatred for Teams. I don't particularly like Slack, and Teams (from my limited experience using it) doesn't seem that much worse.
Teams is trash, I have to use it with certain clients, slack for everything else. Literally everything it does is like a wish.com fail version of slack. Like if you ordered slack on temu.
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I've never understood the hatred for Teams. I don't particularly like Slack, and Teams (from my limited experience using it) doesn't seem that much worse.
They are now finally putting some work in to improve it. I don’t remember much what I used to hate particularly, it was mostly UI related, bugs or the bad Mac implementation.
The new combined view with chats and teams is much better than the split sections.
It took them until just recently to have a basic code block format like everyone else, instead of this annoying editor-in-editor mess they had before (and still kept for some reason).
It used to be very buggy like you had to hunt down the source of some notification to mark it as read. It still doesn’t 100% sync with Outlook. If an event is cancelled and I click delete in Outlook, I also have to go to Teams and „read“ this update. You can set group events in Teams but they somehow don’t end up in Outlook.
What I really like are the clay-like emojis designs.
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what's your feelings about freshservice?
Haven’t gotten to play with that one, but it looks clean.
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They are now finally putting some work in to improve it. I don’t remember much what I used to hate particularly, it was mostly UI related, bugs or the bad Mac implementation.
The new combined view with chats and teams is much better than the split sections.
It took them until just recently to have a basic code block format like everyone else, instead of this annoying editor-in-editor mess they had before (and still kept for some reason).
It used to be very buggy like you had to hunt down the source of some notification to mark it as read. It still doesn’t 100% sync with Outlook. If an event is cancelled and I click delete in Outlook, I also have to go to Teams and „read“ this update. You can set group events in Teams but they somehow don’t end up in Outlook.
What I really like are the clay-like emojis designs.
Bugs around read-notifications are pretty bad. Slack still has those, but they're infrequent and transient, and often solvable with a hard-refresh.
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I've never understood the hatred for Teams. I don't particularly like Slack, and Teams (from my limited experience using it) doesn't seem that much worse.
Notification syncing between devices is nonexistent in Teams and there are no conversation threads.
In general teams is way more buggy with worse UX. I don't know if it's a thing on Teams that our workplace disabled, but there's no decent notification management. If I take a day off, I can set my notifications in Slack as mute for that day and I can manage notifications for messages vs mentions vs mute per channel.
On Teams I can't permanently set Enter as new line, I have to click that rich text editor icon for every single message.
On mobile Teams started doing this thing in group chats where, if I move the cursor with drag on space gesture and then move it back to the end of the message, Teams interprets this as a desire to "attach a program", like power apps (whatever that is).
Pasting in code block also gets me every time. I'll start a code block in Teams window, go to another window, copy the text and click back on my code block. Teams just drops the cursor to the end of message outside my code block and by the time I notice I already hitctrl+v.My last pet peeve is about formatted copy pasting and applies to Slack as well but Teams having more text formatting options shows more of an impact. Never, and I repeat, NEVER have I wanted to paste anything with formatting, especially if I grabbed it form a website, word, excel, pdf or a code editor. Why is it the default and nonnegotiable? I can change the default on Libre Office, why not on Teams? It's a chat app why would I need headings like in a regular doc?
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Confluence is implied as being part of the lower parts of the pyramid yeah?
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next time my job asks me to install teams on my phone, I'm gonna hand them a list of rental costs for access to my phone/internet and to cover any security related issues.
I actually like the flexibility, but Teams is installed in a work profile that I created. This way I can turn it off when the work day is over. Very useful!
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I told them my os is non standard, Graphene, and if they need anything more than 2fa codes, it'd need to be on one of their devices.
My company stopped allowing OTP and required Microsoft Authenticator on personal phones. I was one of the few to refuse, eventually they gave me a Fido key. While I also use a less Google version of Android, I didn't talk about that when it was happened, just the principal that this is my phone, not the companies.
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My previous job was tech support for multiple companies. One of our clients was using Salesforce. Another client used Jira.
A handful of clients were using their own Teams to which I had to connect or run using Citrix and Pulse Secure/Ivanti. Sometimes I had to juggle between three or four Teams.
I'm so glad I quit. I can only hope my next employer won't use Teams, but I won't hold my breath.
Teams now has a multi-account feature, whoch really changes things
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I've never understood the hatred for Teams. I don't particularly like Slack, and Teams (from my limited experience using it) doesn't seem that much worse.
Literally every week I encounter new bugs, it gets worse and worse. Many very basic features (like inline code with back ticks) just stopped working months ago and don't work anymore. Scrolling in some channels is completely broken, jumping around wildly. Sometimes messages just don't get sent (both on Android & Web). Sometimes calls work perfectly all day, then the next call just randomly changes audio device settings and I have to find what's wrong again. Sometimes the video stream of a shared screen just doesn't work, or stops working when switching to the small pop-up window while looking at chats, so the other person has to re-share. Sometimes the "available" state is just broken and keeps getting set to "away". The search just doesn't find many things, even when searching with fairly exact parameters.
It's a daily source of frustration & literally gets worse by the week. I can't remember a program that's made me angry as much as Teams has.
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next time my job asks me to install teams on my phone, I'm gonna hand them a list of rental costs for access to my phone/internet and to cover any security related issues.
Why would they ask to install something on my phone? It's my phone, not theirs.
They could ask, but I think that's all they can do with my phone.
