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  • W [email protected]

    This could very easily spiral into a full-on WW3 scenario. Note, WW3 may not look like what you expect it to look like. We've been culturally conditioned to think WW3 will look like thousands of mushroom clouds over major cities, but that need not be the case. WW3 could be a large conventional war just like the previous world wars.

    Russia is already bogged down in Ukraine, and the US and NATO are supplying them. Israel is at war with a half a dozen countries, and the US is supporting them, including directly entering the war on Iran. The danger of WW3 lies is revealed when you ask, why did Israel choose this time to attack Iran? They chose to because now was simply the perfect opportunity. With Iran's proxy fighters around Israel devastated, with the Gaza a smoking ruin, Iranian power is lower than it has been in years. That's why they decided to do this now - kick them while they're down.

    Us getting bogged down in Iran, however, presents other countries with their own windows of opportunity. And the biggest one is China invading Taiwan. China has been saber-rattling and openly planning an invasion of Taiwan, to be done at some point in the next few years. What better time to launch it than when the US has already been depleting their limited weapon stocks in Ukraine, and just got bogged down in Iran?

    China is already involved in the Ukraine conflict; they're one of Russia's biggest suppliers. Iran also is a Russian ally, providing them thousands of drones. The alliance system of a potential world war is already laid out. It would be Russia/Iran/China vs the US, NATO, and assorted allies.

    This would be unlikely to end up in a full nuclear exchange. Direct invasion of the homelands of Russia, China, or the US are not going to happen. But we could see multiple large conventional armed conflicts breaking out in multiple theaters, a conflict between two vast alliance systems that between them encompass most of the world's population.

    If that isn't a world war, I don't know what is. Nukes don't need to fly to have a conflict that leaves millions dead.

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    It would be Russia/Iran/China vs the US, NATO, and assorted allies.

    I honestly don't think the US has its traditional allies any more. Why should Canada get involved in defense of a bully who is threatening to invade it?

    Israel is the third variable in the equation since everyone is subservient to it, so who knows what will happen there

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      So usa dropping another 1 trillion and 20 years for nothing?

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      What do you mean nothing, think of all the billionaires adding more billions to their bank accounts, isn't that what this country is all about

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      • witchfire@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

        It would be Russia/Iran/China vs the US, NATO, and assorted allies.

        I honestly don't think the US has its traditional allies any more. Why should Canada get involved in defense of a bully who is threatening to invade it?

        Israel is the third variable in the equation since everyone is subservient to it, so who knows what will happen there

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        Why should Canada get involved in defense of a bully who is threatening to invade it?

        Precisely so it doesn't end up on the wrong side and end up getting invaded.

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        • witchfire@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

          If Kamala had won, I (trans latina) would not have had to flee the US. But they're both the exact same amirite? (I'm honestly a little grateful for that. The US is trash. I'm never moving back)

          Edit: my point is that people are literally fleeing the US because it's a sinking ship. Under Kamala, immigration and tourism wouldn't have changed much

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          ...Here's a thought exercise for you: The year is 2028, Trump is running for a third term, and the Dem ticket is... IDK, Newsom/Buttigieg or whatever, and the big thinkers of the DNC have come up with a foolproof plan to steal away MAGA voters: they will agree with exterminating trans people, but! BUT! will firmly, and I mean FIRMLY stand behind gay marriage. And you're trying to explain that both of those choices are unacceptable to you, and in response are met with an avalanche of mockery because "sure, yeah, one side wants gay marriage banned, but they’re both the exact same amirite?"

          Seriously, though, best of luck. Not to assume stuff about your situation, but getting out sooner rather than later sounds like a good move.

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            Half of you did. What a dumb nation

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            Not even close half, us democracy is a joke that loser can win and not everyone gets to vote. 22,5% of US population voted for trump. That is still way too much, but it is still minority.

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            • F [email protected]

              two things can be shite at once buddy.

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              No one said otherwise.

              The original commenter said they hadn't seen anyone fuck up this bad since Bush. The responder is simply implying that they think the covid response was an equally bad fuck up.

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                No one said otherwise.

                The original commenter said they hadn't seen anyone fuck up this bad since Bush. The responder is simply implying that they think the covid response was an equally bad fuck up.

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                that’s not the math I took from it. but, fair point, I reckon.

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                • J [email protected]

                  Trump didn't seek congressional approval before the strike.

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                  He doesn't have to, if it's an "emergency".

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                  • D [email protected]

                    I was kinda hoping the US would collapse into civil war before they helped start WW3.

                    Bugger.

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                    We can do both.

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                    • witchfire@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                      If Kamala had won, I (trans latina) would not have had to flee the US. But they're both the exact same amirite? (I'm honestly a little grateful for that. The US is trash. I'm never moving back)

                      Edit: my point is that people are literally fleeing the US because it's a sinking ship. Under Kamala, immigration and tourism wouldn't have changed much

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                      "I would be alright".

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                      • A [email protected]

                        I have to say, the one good part of Trump in office is at least you lot aren't lecturing people on why invading Iran is good, actually!

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                        Well, at least your inability to do the bare minimum to keep a tyrant king from being elected resulted in you being able to find a bright side to all the suffering he has caused.

                        So happy for you

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                          ...Here's a thought exercise for you: The year is 2028, Trump is running for a third term, and the Dem ticket is... IDK, Newsom/Buttigieg or whatever, and the big thinkers of the DNC have come up with a foolproof plan to steal away MAGA voters: they will agree with exterminating trans people, but! BUT! will firmly, and I mean FIRMLY stand behind gay marriage. And you're trying to explain that both of those choices are unacceptable to you, and in response are met with an avalanche of mockery because "sure, yeah, one side wants gay marriage banned, but they’re both the exact same amirite?"

                          Seriously, though, best of luck. Not to assume stuff about your situation, but getting out sooner rather than later sounds like a good move.

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                          Here’s a thought exercise for you:

                          Try it for a fucking change.

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                            We need to remove this cyst of an administration before they start WW3

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                            • W [email protected]

                              Well, at least your inability to do the bare minimum to keep a tyrant king from being elected resulted in you being able to find a bright side to all the suffering he has caused.

                              So happy for you

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                              Man, you Americans really do think everything is some foreigner's fault?

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                              • S [email protected]

                                So usa dropping another 1 trillion and 20 years for nothing?

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                                It’s called efficiency, look it up.

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                                • J [email protected]

                                  Trump didn't seek congressional approval before the strike.

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                                  And how have democrat politicians responded?

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                                  • A [email protected]

                                    Almost every American just wants to stay home and play video games, we didn't want any of this. We wanted healthcare.

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                                    I fully agree: Americans need to liberate themselves from the chains of their government. Join a local socialist organization, mutual aid, or union

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                                      What do you mean nothing, think of all the billionaires adding more billions to their bank accounts, isn't that what this country is all about

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                                      The American war machine was getting light pocketbooks. Gotta start another conflict.

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                                        The American war machine was getting light pocketbooks. Gotta start another conflict.

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                                        Yea, the American MIC stocks are getting outpaced by European ones, we gotta start a new war to make the stocks up!

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                                          Some of them have.

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