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U.S. Has Attacked Iran's Nuclear Facilities

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  • N [email protected]

    Never thought I live to see someone fuck up worse than Bush Jr.

    He just got the US into a war where there's nothing to gain, zero upsides other than bending the k we to Israel.

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    We are only 6 months in….. fuck us

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    • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

      Iran is a major trade partner and an important partner in the Ukraine War and they were both important allies of Assad and worked closely together in Syria. They have deep ties. There's no way the price of oil is worth losing one of their key allies in the region.

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      #20

      Why not? They have strategic value sure but Russia is nearly bankrupt, Iran for an extra year or two of solvency makes sense to me. Further weakens the US too.

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      • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

        Netanyahu?

        Although it's not like Trump is some puppet on a string. The whole US government wants war with Iran and it has for my entire life. There doesn't need to be some secret master behind this (Israel, Russia, whatever)

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        Lol Netanyahu is not Trump's master, he's his business buddy.

        The guy thinks like an 80s caricature of a business man. He wants to build resorts in Gaza so he cozies up with Israel. Plus there's oil and natural gas in Iran. Iran is a friend of China which Trump desperately wants to look strong against.

        He doesn't care about Israel or Palestinians (or anyone for that matter) he couldn't give two shits. If the roles were reversed, he would cozy up to the power in charge.

        I'm not saying he's a great strategist, I think he goes with the opportunities and jumps on them when he can and he takes a lot of miscalculated risks, exactly like he run his other businesses.

        But one thing for sure, he asked Putin before he did launched his pew pews on Iran.

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        • N [email protected]

          Never thought I live to see someone fuck up worse than Bush Jr.

          He just got the US into a war where there's nothing to gain, zero upsides other than bending the k we to Israel.

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          #22

          Musta missed 2019 when the US was caught with their pants down during a global pandemic, despite having a pandemic plan in place just a few years prior. Ultimately ended up killing over a million Americans... And the guy got re-elected.

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          • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

            Iran is a major trade partner and an important partner in the Ukraine War and they were both important allies of Assad and worked closely together in Syria. They have deep ties. There's no way the price of oil is worth losing one of their key allies in the region.

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            #23

            If Iran gets their own nukes, then Russia loses a big bargaining chip.

            Honestly, that's probably the only reason why nukes weren't used.

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            • N [email protected]

              Never thought I live to see someone fuck up worse than Bush Jr.

              He just got the US into a war where there's nothing to gain, zero upsides other than bending the k we to Israel.

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              fuck up worse than Bush Jr

              Trump is an enemy to the US. He isn't fucking up, we're letting him succeed.

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              • R [email protected]

                Why not? They have strategic value sure but Russia is nearly bankrupt, Iran for an extra year or two of solvency makes sense to me. Further weakens the US too.

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                It told you why not! Because Iran is an important regional ally and business partner and military asset.

                Russia sacrificing an ally like this for something as paltry as "gas prices" would be short-sighted in the extreme.

                Although since you seem to think Russia is "nearly bankrupt" and that this only buys them "an extra year or two" that explains why you don't think this matters.

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                • B [email protected]

                  If Iran gets their own nukes, then Russia loses a big bargaining chip.

                  Honestly, that's probably the only reason why nukes weren't used.

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                  #26

                  If Iran gets their own nukes, one of Russia's most important allies in the region is safe from attack. That seems a lot more useful than a "bargaining chip". Now, Russia risks losing an important ally and whatever bargaining chip they may have had.

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                  • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                    If Iran gets their own nukes, one of Russia's most important allies in the region is safe from attack. That seems a lot more useful than a "bargaining chip". Now, Russia risks losing an important ally and whatever bargaining chip they may have had.

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                    #27

                    You're reading the play like Russia wants an ally.

                    What they want is a dependent.

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                    • W [email protected]

                      Cool, guess you’ve done all you can. Great work. Sit back, have a coke, watch tv. Be very proud of all you’ve accomplished.

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                      #28

                      Okay mods I'll be civil this time. Since voting does nothing positive and only serves as a cudgel for politicians to claim that they legitimately represent their subjects, then if you only voted, it is slightly more useless than doing literally nothing.

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                      • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                        Netanyahu?

                        Although it's not like Trump is some puppet on a string. The whole US government wants war with Iran and it has for my entire life. There doesn't need to be some secret master behind this (Israel, Russia, whatever)

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                        Anybody else remember Cheyney singing “bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran?”

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                        • M [email protected]

                          You keep telling yourself that

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                          Okay mods I'll be civil. I basically said "I saw it (what this person is responding to) with my own eyes."

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                          • B [email protected]

                            You're reading the play like Russia wants an ally.

                            What they want is a dependent.

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                            Only empires can have dependency, Russia isn't nearly that strong. Russia needs allies or it will be overwhelmed.

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                            • U [email protected]

                              Lol Netanyahu is not Trump's master, he's his business buddy.

                              The guy thinks like an 80s caricature of a business man. He wants to build resorts in Gaza so he cozies up with Israel. Plus there's oil and natural gas in Iran. Iran is a friend of China which Trump desperately wants to look strong against.

                              He doesn't care about Israel or Palestinians (or anyone for that matter) he couldn't give two shits. If the roles were reversed, he would cozy up to the power in charge.

                              I'm not saying he's a great strategist, I think he goes with the opportunities and jumps on them when he can and he takes a lot of miscalculated risks, exactly like he run his other businesses.

                              But one thing for sure, he asked Putin before he did launched his pew pews on Iran.

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                              Do you think Biden wouldn't have done the exact same thing to "defend" Israel?

                              This is clearly about Israel and the long-time desire for war with Iran in the US government. Blaming Russia is, frankly, absurd.

                              Trump certainly would like to have Putin as a business buddy, he's an 80's deals guy after all, but there's no business here that benefits Russia so that's also absurd. Russia does not benefit from Iran's collapse. This is very bad for Russia.

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                                Anyone who still thinks Trump is to blame just isn’t paying attention.

                                These strikes would’ve happened no matter who the president was it’s a geopolitical inevitability.

                                And yes, it’s becoming increasingly clear that Ukraine is in serious trouble now.

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                                • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                                  Only empires can have dependency, Russia isn't nearly that strong. Russia needs allies or it will be overwhelmed.

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                                  Glances at Belarus

                                  Yeah. Okay.

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                                    Anyone who still thinks Trump is to blame just isn’t paying attention.

                                    These strikes would’ve happened no matter who the president was it’s a geopolitical inevitability.

                                    And yes, it’s becoming increasingly clear that Ukraine is in serious trouble now.

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                                    Taiwan and South Korea probably shittting their pants right about now as well. Daddy's about to be too busy to help out when their possed off neightcome knocking

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                                    • B [email protected]

                                      You're reading the play like Russia wants an ally.

                                      What they want is a dependent.

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                                      Iran supplies an absolute shit ton of military supplies to Russia.

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                                        Iran supplies an absolute shit ton of military supplies to Russia.

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                                        Yeah. You think Russia is doing shit for free?

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                                        • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                                          Only empires can have dependency, Russia isn't nearly that strong. Russia needs allies or it will be overwhelmed.

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                                          But Russia thinks it's an empire and acts accordingly, reality be damned.

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