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U.S. Has Attacked Iran's Nuclear Facilities

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  • W [email protected]

    Cool, guess you’ve done all you can. Great work. Sit back, have a coke, watch tv. Be very proud of all you’ve accomplished.

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    #28

    Okay mods I'll be civil this time. Since voting does nothing positive and only serves as a cudgel for politicians to claim that they legitimately represent their subjects, then if you only voted, it is slightly more useless than doing literally nothing.

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    • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

      Netanyahu?

      Although it's not like Trump is some puppet on a string. The whole US government wants war with Iran and it has for my entire life. There doesn't need to be some secret master behind this (Israel, Russia, whatever)

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      Anybody else remember Cheyney singing “bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran?”

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      • M [email protected]

        You keep telling yourself that

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        Okay mods I'll be civil. I basically said "I saw it (what this person is responding to) with my own eyes."

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        • B [email protected]

          You're reading the play like Russia wants an ally.

          What they want is a dependent.

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          Only empires can have dependency, Russia isn't nearly that strong. Russia needs allies or it will be overwhelmed.

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          • U [email protected]

            Lol Netanyahu is not Trump's master, he's his business buddy.

            The guy thinks like an 80s caricature of a business man. He wants to build resorts in Gaza so he cozies up with Israel. Plus there's oil and natural gas in Iran. Iran is a friend of China which Trump desperately wants to look strong against.

            He doesn't care about Israel or Palestinians (or anyone for that matter) he couldn't give two shits. If the roles were reversed, he would cozy up to the power in charge.

            I'm not saying he's a great strategist, I think he goes with the opportunities and jumps on them when he can and he takes a lot of miscalculated risks, exactly like he run his other businesses.

            But one thing for sure, he asked Putin before he did launched his pew pews on Iran.

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            Do you think Biden wouldn't have done the exact same thing to "defend" Israel?

            This is clearly about Israel and the long-time desire for war with Iran in the US government. Blaming Russia is, frankly, absurd.

            Trump certainly would like to have Putin as a business buddy, he's an 80's deals guy after all, but there's no business here that benefits Russia so that's also absurd. Russia does not benefit from Iran's collapse. This is very bad for Russia.

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              Anyone who still thinks Trump is to blame just isn’t paying attention.

              These strikes would’ve happened no matter who the president was it’s a geopolitical inevitability.

              And yes, it’s becoming increasingly clear that Ukraine is in serious trouble now.

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              • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                Only empires can have dependency, Russia isn't nearly that strong. Russia needs allies or it will be overwhelmed.

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                Glances at Belarus

                Yeah. Okay.

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                • R [email protected]

                  Anyone who still thinks Trump is to blame just isn’t paying attention.

                  These strikes would’ve happened no matter who the president was it’s a geopolitical inevitability.

                  And yes, it’s becoming increasingly clear that Ukraine is in serious trouble now.

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                  Taiwan and South Korea probably shittting their pants right about now as well. Daddy's about to be too busy to help out when their possed off neightcome knocking

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                  • B [email protected]

                    You're reading the play like Russia wants an ally.

                    What they want is a dependent.

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                    #36

                    Iran supplies an absolute shit ton of military supplies to Russia.

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                      Iran supplies an absolute shit ton of military supplies to Russia.

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                      Yeah. You think Russia is doing shit for free?

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                      • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                        Only empires can have dependency, Russia isn't nearly that strong. Russia needs allies or it will be overwhelmed.

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                        #38

                        But Russia thinks it's an empire and acts accordingly, reality be damned.

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                          Ugh. This kind of hits hard.

                          I know people who are active in the military (yes they are stupid and yes it doesn't take much analysis to figure out they're probably magats). In particular I know several who have been to Kuwait and seem to regularly get stationed there.

                          I've known several people who died by suicide from PTSD from Kuwait, or Iraq.

                          There's a girl, she's a sergeant. She's in until 2028, been to Kuwait already. I don't know if she's even 23. She certainly doesn't come off as a magat. But it doesn't really matter. 23 is an adult yes. But to me? I'm 34? She's just starting life out. To get killed in this kind of war is gross.

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                          • B [email protected]

                            Glances at Belarus

                            Yeah. Okay.

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                            Belarus has basically been driven out of the European economy, but that's hardly something Russia did. If Russia has become an empire and Belarus has lost its sovereignty it's because Europe decided to force the issue. Bad move, I guess?

                            Or maybe Belarus and Russia are just allies and they're working together like normal allies do.

                            Either way, comparing this to Iran is absurd! Iran has ten times the population. Plus, China is right there. It wouldn't work.

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                            • R [email protected]

                              Anyone who still thinks Trump is to blame just isn’t paying attention.

                              These strikes would’ve happened no matter who the president was it’s a geopolitical inevitability.

                              And yes, it’s becoming increasingly clear that Ukraine is in serious trouble now.

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                              I'm waiting to see if Trump/pentagon escalates or does their strike package and goes home.

                              I doubt this is going to lead to some sort of ground invasion. Biden would have done the exact same although maybe more clandestine.

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                              • G [email protected]

                                But Russia thinks it's an empire and acts accordingly, reality be damned.

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                                So you think they're stupid.

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                                  The US empire is a cancer on humanity

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                                  • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                                    Do you think Biden wouldn't have done the exact same thing to "defend" Israel?

                                    This is clearly about Israel and the long-time desire for war with Iran in the US government. Blaming Russia is, frankly, absurd.

                                    Trump certainly would like to have Putin as a business buddy, he's an 80's deals guy after all, but there's no business here that benefits Russia so that's also absurd. Russia does not benefit from Iran's collapse. This is very bad for Russia.

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                                    I'm not blaming Russia, I'm not saying Dems were not gonna side with Israel. You asked if Putin wanted the strikes on Iran. I'm saying there's no way he wasn't on board.

                                    Does he like it? I don't know but one thing for sure is he knew about the strikes and agreed to them. With all that Trump did to benefit Putin up till then, no way in hell he didn't ask permission to do that move...

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                                    • U [email protected]

                                      I'm not blaming Russia, I'm not saying Dems were not gonna side with Israel. You asked if Putin wanted the strikes on Iran. I'm saying there's no way he wasn't on board.

                                      Does he like it? I don't know but one thing for sure is he knew about the strikes and agreed to them. With all that Trump did to benefit Putin up till then, no way in hell he didn't ask permission to do that move...

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                                      And I'm saying there's no way Putin wants Iran to be bombed, and so therefore this was done without his permission or knowledge.

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                                        Hello world war 3.

                                        It’s being nice knowing you, humans

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                                        • B [email protected]

                                          Taiwan and South Korea probably shittting their pants right about now as well. Daddy's about to be too busy to help out when their possed off neightcome knocking

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                                          They’ll be next — just not immediately. Over the next couple of years, Ukraine will likely be partitioned, and as the war with Iran de-escalates, a new conflict will be needed to fill the vacuum. That’s how the cycle tends to work.

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