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Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon

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  • J [email protected]

    I have gotten cynical to the point of assuming the "endgame" here is properly kicking off WW3, so that Trump gets an excuse to drop a nuke or two on an adversary.

    "The last time we had a world war, we won it! We were the best - and we won it with our nukes, our big beautiful nukes - it's really a shame we haven't used them since, don't you think? We ended the war by dropping 2 on Japan, and now Japan is our best friend. Why don't we drop some nukes on Iran? Don't we want them to be our friend?"

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    Also, wasn't Trump the reason the largest non-nuclear bomb in the USA arsenal was first used in combat? The bomb that had never been deployed in the almost 15 years since it's creation specifically because the US military thought it would create too many civilian casualties?

    The same Trump that allegedly wanted to nuke hurricanes to disrupt them before they hit the US's coast?

    The dude just wants to play with the shiny toys and see things go "boom". He has literally stated to his own biographer that

    When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I'm basically the same. The temperament is not that different."

    (source: The Week)

    I suppose it suits him just fine that Israel is now flirting with open warfare with their neighbors.

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      10 assassinations of relatively innocent people simultaneously. Straight out of Walter white’s playbook when he went full villain.

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      They aren't innocent, they are knowingly creating a devastating weapon of mass destruction for a regime who has declared that they intend to use it. While I don't support this sort of unprovoked attack, I can't get too worked up over the demise of literally mad scientists.

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        The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

        The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

        The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

        The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

        Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

        Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

        Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

        How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

        A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

        Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

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        Comments going against Israel - so you agree that Iran should have nuclear weapons?

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          Comments going against Israel - so you agree that Iran should have nuclear weapons?

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          #326

          I don't think that anybody should have nuclear weapons. Do you support assassinating scientists?

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          • S [email protected]

            Clearly not working, Israel and the us have them nukes and that's not stopping Iran and Palestine from retaliation

            Or do you see them staying the fuck away?

            Because I certainly don't

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            lol what. yeah the parties that don't have the nukes do retaliate when the parties with the nukes are the aggressors. Iran didn't start a war. Palestine isn't even involved in a war that's just genocide.

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              Comments going against Israel - so you agree that Iran should have nuclear weapons?

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              Absolutely. It is crystal fucking clear that Iran will never be safe until it has nuclear deterrence.

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                I think you stronly underestimate how bad genocide is. Are you a history buff? In the 20th century there was this guy called Hitler. He became the personification of evil because he committed genocide. That's where Israel is at. Iran, as far as I know, is not committing a genocide.

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                I don't think you give a shit about genocide, personally, you've just picked the Palestinian Genocide as your particular favourite issue to bang your drum about.

                Tell me, what are your opinions on:

                • The Ukrainian Genocide (by Russia)
                • The Masalit Genocide (by Sudan)
                • The Rohingya Genocide (by Myanmar)
                • The Uyghur Genocide (by China)
                  ?

                And those are the other genocides happening literally right now!

                Let's go a little further back:

                • The Tigray Genocide (by Ethiopia in 2022)
                • The Yazidi Genocide (by ISIS in 2014)
                • The Darfur Genocide (By the RSF in 2005)
                • The Bosnian Genocide (by Serbia in 1995)
                • The Death Commissions (by Iran from 1981-1988. Ebrahim Raisi, President of Iran until 2024 was literally on the panels that executed people for being non-Muslim!)
                • The Kurdish Genocide (by Iraq in 1988 and arguably by Turkey and Iran now, given that pro-Iran protestors set fire to the Kurdish party offices in Iraq)

                So no, I don't think you care. If you did, you wouldn't be supporting Iran who gives drones to Russia to commit genocide and have themselves committed genocide. You would be calling for Iran's government to be deposed for the religious nutjobs that they are.

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                  Comments going against Israel - so you agree that Iran should have nuclear weapons?

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                  Comments going for Israel - so you agree that Israel should have nuclear weapons?

                  Bomb Israel, don't let those Nazi's have nukes.

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                    The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

                    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

                    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

                    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

                    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

                    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

                    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

                    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

                    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

                    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

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                    #331

                    Murdered. Not killed, murdered.

                    Both technically true, but the way they write killed suggests it wasn't murder in cold blood, an act of war against another country to bully and control them.

                    Murder.

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                    • H [email protected]

                      How can people be so fucking stupid as to keep their key personnel vulnerable like that?

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                      There are very few habitable places in the world not susceptible to airstrikes. The bombs dropped on nuclear facilities last night are claimed to be able to penetrate 60 meters of earth before exploding.

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                      • obinice@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

                        Murdered. Not killed, murdered.

                        Both technically true, but the way they write killed suggests it wasn't murder in cold blood, an act of war against another country to bully and control them.

                        Murder.

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                        I think assassinated is the appropriate term here as it's politically motivated.

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                        • R [email protected]

                          Narnia? What an odd name. What did they kill them with, a lion or a wardrobe?

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                          The Lyin' Bitch and the War Globe.

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                          • B [email protected]

                            The alternative is “drop bombs”.

                            Rounding up leaders and putting them on trial seems like a more civilized international approach than engaging in the same bloodthirsty, explosive, surprise-murder that is literally the whole problem here.

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                            You don't have the alternative to go into other people's country and round up people because people will absolutely shoot any such folks then drop bomb's on your cities and forces. It's not my fault you are confused about what the options are.

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                              The US gave Israel, an evil state, nuclear weapons. By your logic...

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                              Well they were less evil back then.. now I think we should cut off all support. And I think we probably would stop the donations, if it wasn't for Iran being allied with Ruzzia.

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                                Comments going against Israel - so you agree that Iran should have nuclear weapons?

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                                It's the only rational course of action we have left for them. They would be insane not to try. I don't know if they will succeed. Mosad seems all powerful, but they will certainly try.

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                                • S [email protected]

                                  The story of Israel is the story of the US in many ways, and the same species of denial reflected, shattered and mutated into a new context with different pre-existing histories doesn't change the nature of this, that it is the same old process of colonialism violently denying itself. I recognize the primal scream because I have shamefully participated in it in the past cycles of this story, not because I actually understand myself as impervious to its violent impulse.

                                  This has nothing to do with religion, any -ism, any broad category of people, it is just the nature of how colonialism was designed to divide us.

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                                  This isn't university, you can talk normal here.

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                                    I have always been amazed that countries are allowed to get away with this. You would expect that a country that does this would have their leadership rounded up by an international strike force instantly and hauled to Hague.

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                                    You have been playing too much rainbow six. There are no good guys in the halls of power looking after us.

                                    There are only the rich fucks over here and the rich fucks over there pulling the levers of power.

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                                      Murdered. Not killed, murdered.

                                      Both technically true, but the way they write killed suggests it wasn't murder in cold blood, an act of war against another country to bully and control them.

                                      Murder.

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                                      #340

                                      the word "kill" is typically used in regards to warfare, not murder, so I'm not sure why you would say in this instance that it was written as though it wasn't an act of war.

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                                        Comments going against Israel - so you agree that Iran should have nuclear weapons?

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                                        Only because genocidal zionazi supremacists control the us, and by extension g7+nato, Iran should not pursue nuclear energy, because Israel would always accuse them of pursuing more. There is no economic value for nuclear energy. Solar + batteries much more effective.

                                        Still, negotiations to that end are far more human. I wouldn't want you to have nuclear weapons, but killing you should have a better reason Than my supremacy.

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                                          This isn't university, you can talk normal here.

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                                          Are you telling me this isn't a wizard school?! Wait

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