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Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon

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  • M [email protected]

    In a democracy, the people get the government that they deserve, at least the near-majority of them do.

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    There is no such thing as democracy, it's only a theoretical concept.

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    • T [email protected]

      And it's on the IAEA to declare that they are indeed working on a weapons program, not speculation and assumption like yours.

      Okay. Don’t use your reason if you’d prefer not to. It does make me wonder though:

      Do you think the killing of the civilian scientists was wrong because they were civilian scientists, or because they were ostensibly working on an energy program?

      Because as I said, I’m not claiming the murders were justified, just that we ought to be honest about the why.

      There are plenty making the argument that Iran needs a nuclear weapons program to prevent exactly these types of attacks. That is intellectually honest. I’m not sure where I fall on that argument, I’d rather no one have nuclear weapons (but obviously that’s not going to happen).

      The difference between 5% and 60% enrichment is pretty huge. And the research and effort required to get there is neither cheap nor easy. If what they’re after is nuclear energy, there is absolutely no reason to continue risking the ire of the international community and the repeated attacks by Israel. They’ve had energy-level uranium for a very long time already.

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      these people have their agenda and its that Israel is evil and deserves to be destroyed. they've decided to cast logic into the wind in order to boost their agenda.

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      • B [email protected]

        There is no such thing as democracy, it's only a theoretical concept.

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        There's no such thing as pure democracy in anything larger than an ancient Greek city-state, possibly today's HOAs - and you see how well they work.

        What passes for democracy in todays' nations of millions (and even the HOA we chose to leave 12 years ago) is elected representative government where the voters trust their elected representatives to represent their interests - to varying degrees of success and failure.

        What's lacking in, for instance, the US government for some time now is actual representation of the majority of the peoples' interests - unless the majority of the people actually enjoy being on the poor end of a growing wealth gap. Those voters who continue to elect representatives who perpetuate these policies are: getting the government they deserve.

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        • M [email protected]

          iran shouldn't have funded hamas and terrorist activity around the world. Iran fucked around and now its finding out.

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          Iran is simply countering the terrorist state known as israel.

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          • hark@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

            Iran is simply countering the terrorist state known as israel.

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            the terrorist state that launched a war against real terrorists after they murdered over 1200 people and took hundreds of people including children hostage.

            your REAL terrorist propaganda doesn't work on me. blocked.

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              the terrorist state that launched a war against real terrorists after they murdered over 1200 people and took hundreds of people including children hostage.

              your REAL terrorist propaganda doesn't work on me. blocked.

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              Oh right, I forgot that history started on October 7th.

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              • M [email protected]

                o my sweet summer child....

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                I'm not saying they couldn't be. I'm saying that the official body meant to oversee this has not yet put out proof that they are. So we can imagine all we want. If the professional independent watchdog that is checking for this has not officially made a statement with undeniable proof that they are, they aren't.

                Who has more insight in the matter, you or the IAEA?

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                • B [email protected]

                  They aren't innocent, they are knowingly creating a devastating weapon of mass destruction for a regime who has declared that they intend to use it. While I don't support this sort of unprovoked attack, I can't get too worked up over the demise of literally mad scientists.

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                  I too find Boeing engineers and other factory workers valid targets for murder. Nice finding a fellow.

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                  • B [email protected]

                    I understand, and it's good that you want to find out stuff.
                    I'll gladly try to help.

                    I think it's important not to focus on Nuremberg but understand the purpose of it in the big picture about WW2.
                    Like I said, the Nuremberg trials where a show trial.
                    To say to the world: 'look here, justice has been done and the bad nazis are punished, we can move on now'.
                    They made an example of those on trial and the world could enjoy watching a few of them hang.

                    I'll post some links to what is swept under the carpet and never taught in schools, the uncomfortable truth that US/UK/Eu capitalists had no problem with fascism and helped it survive.
                    That they went to great lengths to save awful warcriminals and made sure other nazis remained in power in Europe.

                    https://ebeggin.substack.com/p/ratlines-nato-and-the-fourth-reich
                    https://www.businessinsider.com/former-nazi-officials-in-germany-post-world-war-ii-government-2016-10?r=US&IR=T
                    https://www.dispropaganda.com/single-post/2019/04/04/natos-secret-nazi-past
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_Gs-0dhOo

                    The support for fascists continued post war too:

                    Covertly, as for example in Project Aerodynamic

                    But even openly, as they saw no problem in accepting clear fascist states like Spain (Franco), Portugal (Salazar) or Greece into NATO.

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                    Some more proof : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sunrise_(World_War_II)

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                    • K [email protected]

                      Only one is defensible.

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                      The other is offensive yes.

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                      • C [email protected]

                        That sounds like total bullshit, according to that logic anything could be declared a military target and therefore nothing would fall under the Geneva convention. I think you're talking out of your ass.

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                        You are more than welcome to cite the actual Geneva convention to show where I'm wrong.

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