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  • sp3ctre@feddit.orgS [email protected]

    People are used to seperate apps for dating I guess. And the matching-concept like on tinder is nice as well if there wouldn't be a big profit-oriented company behind it. It could be a tinder with equal chances for everybody. At least it would be driven with an algorithm, which doesn't have profit as a goal.

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    I understand that and I wish it wasn't the case, idk I feel like point of social media / or at least one of the points of using social media is to share your experiences, what you like or don't like and find like minded people and if lucky enough meet love of your life. Basically what dating apps are for.

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    • robottoaster@mander.xyzR [email protected]

      Every app is a dating app if you use it wrong enough.

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      A few weeks ago there was a screenshot going around "I met my wife in a github issue thread".

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        1000001311

        It has already happened to me. Too bad I can't afford a plane ticket to Canada.

        EDIT: I didn't meant that part about the plane ticket seriously. And I didn't leak any DMs between us, because I never replied to her.

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        I got that one several times too, and saw screenshots of it elsewhere too. Not in a while by now though.

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        • sp3ctre@feddit.orgS [email protected]

          Hey there!

          Last year, I fell into the Fediverse-rabbithole and I really like it so far. We already have alternatives for Twitter/X, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit and so on.

          But today I realized, there actually isn't an alternative for tinder. But I think there could be a huge demand for it.
          This could also motivate people to change platforms, since no one wants to buy tinder premium for a lot of money.

          But I think I'm maybe not the first one coming up with this idea. What do you think about this?

          ~ sp3ctre

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          Let's not clone trash. Tinder sucks because it has no matching mechanism to filter out incompatible people. To find one interesting profile on Tinder I have to swipe about 500 profiles. To get more matches, I risk some false positives and like ~2% of profiles. Then I need to filter the matches in person. Very inefficient, a waste of time.

          The opposite of that was OkCupid before Match Group destroyed it.

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            1000001311

            It has already happened to me. Too bad I can't afford a plane ticket to Canada.

            EDIT: I didn't meant that part about the plane ticket seriously. And I didn't leak any DMs between us, because I never replied to her.

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            I got this message too.

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            • sp3ctre@feddit.orgS [email protected]

              Hey there!

              Last year, I fell into the Fediverse-rabbithole and I really like it so far. We already have alternatives for Twitter/X, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit and so on.

              But today I realized, there actually isn't an alternative for tinder. But I think there could be a huge demand for it.
              This could also motivate people to change platforms, since no one wants to buy tinder premium for a lot of money.

              But I think I'm maybe not the first one coming up with this idea. What do you think about this?

              ~ sp3ctre

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              There is a Mastodon frontend with a Tinder-like interface: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/fedimatch/id6503460577

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              • tehdastehdas@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                Let's not clone trash. Tinder sucks because it has no matching mechanism to filter out incompatible people. To find one interesting profile on Tinder I have to swipe about 500 profiles. To get more matches, I risk some false positives and like ~2% of profiles. Then I need to filter the matches in person. Very inefficient, a waste of time.

                The opposite of that was OkCupid before Match Group destroyed it.

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                This could be a symptom of being corporate-driven. They suggest you incompatible people, because they want you to pay (to get better results). I assume you only tried the free version. I never tried the paid one.

                I think this problem could be solved.

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                  Hi (with rizz)

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                  Get a room!

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                    Get a room!

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                    like, on matrix or something πŸ˜„

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                    • sp3ctre@feddit.orgS [email protected]

                      This could be a symptom of being corporate-driven. They suggest you incompatible people, because they want you to pay (to get better results). I assume you only tried the free version. I never tried the paid one.

                      I think this problem could be solved.

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                      Even if you pay they have no incentive to get you to stop paying (i.e. find a partner).

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                      • lemmchen@feddit.orgL [email protected]

                        Not exactly federated, but open source: https://github.com/Alovoa/alovoa

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                        from the images on the front page, i get the feeling the userbase is tiny

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                        • lemmchen@feddit.orgL [email protected]

                          Not exactly federated, but open source: https://github.com/Alovoa/alovoa

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                          Cool, didn't know that one. Maybe it's a good first step. Since it's open source, people can work with it and develope it further.

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                          • sp3ctre@feddit.orgS [email protected]

                            Hey there!

                            Last year, I fell into the Fediverse-rabbithole and I really like it so far. We already have alternatives for Twitter/X, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit and so on.

                            But today I realized, there actually isn't an alternative for tinder. But I think there could be a huge demand for it.
                            This could also motivate people to change platforms, since no one wants to buy tinder premium for a lot of money.

                            But I think I'm maybe not the first one coming up with this idea. What do you think about this?

                            ~ sp3ctre

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                            There's a Foss dating app called alovoa, I think I saw something on the subreddit when I was taking a look at it again a while back about potentially implementing activitypub

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                            • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

                              from the images on the front page, i get the feeling the userbase is tiny

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                              Haha, I don't think those are real users. But yeah, they could have done a better job selecting a pool of stock photos.

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                              • sp3ctre@feddit.orgS [email protected]

                                Hey there!

                                Last year, I fell into the Fediverse-rabbithole and I really like it so far. We already have alternatives for Twitter/X, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit and so on.

                                But today I realized, there actually isn't an alternative for tinder. But I think there could be a huge demand for it.
                                This could also motivate people to change platforms, since no one wants to buy tinder premium for a lot of money.

                                But I think I'm maybe not the first one coming up with this idea. What do you think about this?

                                ~ sp3ctre

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                                I would have serious concerns regarding data privacy. You share intimate and very private details about yourself on these apps that could be used for blackmail. I wouldn't feel comfortable sharing that on a federated network. For example, how would you ensure data isn't logged by a hostile server operator. A company is at least forced to play lip service to privacy laws. The theoretical operator of fedi-date.ru can do what they want.

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                                • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deE [email protected]

                                  I would have serious concerns regarding data privacy. You share intimate and very private details about yourself on these apps that could be used for blackmail. I wouldn't feel comfortable sharing that on a federated network. For example, how would you ensure data isn't logged by a hostile server operator. A company is at least forced to play lip service to privacy laws. The theoretical operator of fedi-date.ru can do what they want.

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                                  But thats a problem with dating-networks in general because of the intimate character. I think if you want to do it, then it should be done in a safer way than tinder. And the security of your instance should be checked today already. The federation could be a safety advantage, because you can choose on your own, where you think it's the safest.

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                                    I would have serious concerns regarding data privacy. You share intimate and very private details about yourself on these apps that could be used for blackmail. I wouldn't feel comfortable sharing that on a federated network. For example, how would you ensure data isn't logged by a hostile server operator. A company is at least forced to play lip service to privacy laws. The theoretical operator of fedi-date.ru can do what they want.

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                                    There's nothing you can do for profile data, public key encryption is an option for DMs.

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                                    • sp3ctre@feddit.orgS [email protected]

                                      Cool, didn't know that one. Maybe it's a good first step. Since it's open source, people can work with it and develope it further.

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                                      The trouble is that with this sorry of thing you really do need some form of moderation or quality control (of the users, not (only) the platform) because it will be inundated by fake profiles and nasty content.

                                      As much as I'm cheering for Alovoa I don't see how this is solveable. πŸ₯²

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                                      • sp3ctre@feddit.orgS [email protected]

                                        But thats a problem with dating-networks in general because of the intimate character. I think if you want to do it, then it should be done in a safer way than tinder. And the security of your instance should be checked today already. The federation could be a safety advantage, because you can choose on your own, where you think it's the safest.

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                                        No, data must be shared between instances for federation to make any sense and the operators of other instances don't necessarily share your views about privacy and security. Lets take for example a matching algorithm like the one OkCupid used to use. You answer some questions and based upon those people are recommended to you. If you want to see people from other instances as well, the answers to the questions must be shared between all federated instances; but at the same time these answers contain private details about you.
                                        I don't think a workable solution to this problem exists, even if you come up with an algorithm that allows you to make decisions on anonymized data. The danger of deanonymization due to a bug is too high.

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                                        • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deE [email protected]

                                          No, data must be shared between instances for federation to make any sense and the operators of other instances don't necessarily share your views about privacy and security. Lets take for example a matching algorithm like the one OkCupid used to use. You answer some questions and based upon those people are recommended to you. If you want to see people from other instances as well, the answers to the questions must be shared between all federated instances; but at the same time these answers contain private details about you.
                                          I don't think a workable solution to this problem exists, even if you come up with an algorithm that allows you to make decisions on anonymized data. The danger of deanonymization due to a bug is too high.

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                                          But what about defederation from malicious/insecure instances? Couldn't this solve these kind of problems?

                                          Of course, there will still be a risk. But isn't it a step in the better direction?

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