Tinder-alternatives for the Fediverse
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I would have serious concerns regarding data privacy. You share intimate and very private details about yourself on these apps that could be used for blackmail. I wouldn't feel comfortable sharing that on a federated network. For example, how would you ensure data isn't logged by a hostile server operator. A company is at least forced to play lip service to privacy laws. The theoretical operator of
fedi-date.rucan do what they want.How about doing some fine-grained control mechanism: you share little data publicly, then once somebody likes you, you can decide to share more with them. With some cryptography tricks should be possible to share this information only with the other person and not with their home servers.
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There's a Foss dating app called alovoa, I think I saw something on the subreddit when I was taking a look at it again a while back about potentially implementing activitypub
My last impression was that alovoa would need a lot of work still. It's also the best thing I've seen so far but it's very buggy unfortunately.
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How about doing some fine-grained control mechanism: you share little data publicly, then once somebody likes you, you can decide to share more with them. With some cryptography tricks should be possible to share this information only with the other person and not with their home servers.
I don't think control features help much when one of the most basic question that you can ask is "What is your gender and who would you like to date?". As I have already outlined in another comment in this thread, this information has to be shared with the federated network and is already enough to get people into serious trouble should it get into the wrong hands.
Alternatively think about it this way. Would you hand over this kind of information to a total stranger? Would you take on the responsibility of handling data that could literally kill someone if you make a mistake?
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The trouble is that with this sorry of thing you really do need some form of moderation or quality control (of the users, not (only) the platform) because it will be inundated by fake profiles and nasty content.
As much as I'm cheering for Alovoa I don't see how this is solveable. 🥲
Solvable by requiring verification of every user by government ID?
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Let's not clone trash. Tinder sucks because it has no matching mechanism to filter out incompatible people. To find one interesting profile on Tinder I have to swipe about 500 profiles. To get more matches, I risk some false positives and like ~2% of profiles. Then I need to filter the matches in person. Very inefficient, a waste of time.
The opposite of that was OkCupid before Match Group destroyed it.
What would the matching mechanism do?
Look at your fediverse activity and match people who like the same things as you?Could be interesting but creepy
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Solvable by requiring verification of every user by government ID?
Then you’d need some organization with resources to store this data? You’d still need to trust someone to do this correctly.
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Hey there!
Last year, I fell into the Fediverse-rabbithole and I really like it so far. We already have alternatives for Twitter/X, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit and so on.
But today I realized, there actually isn't an alternative for tinder. But I think there could be a huge demand for it.
This could also motivate people to change platforms, since no one wants to buy tinder premium for a lot of money.But I think I'm maybe not the first one coming up with this idea. What do you think about this?
~ sp3ctre
I've heard of FediMatch: https://github.com/Lypsilonx/FediMatch
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What would the matching mechanism do?
Look at your fediverse activity and match people who like the same things as you?Could be interesting but creepy
Just like match and okc you'd have to take a quiz and match against core values. Social media data mining would be a terrible way of matching.
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There's a Foss dating app called alovoa, I think I saw something on the subreddit when I was taking a look at it again a while back about potentially implementing activitypub
Looking at their github and they havnt merged a PR since October. Feels a like it might be dead.
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Not exactly federated, but open source: https://github.com/Alovoa/alovoa
Looking at their github and they havnt merged a PR since October. Feels a like it might be dead.
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Looking at their github and they havnt merged a PR since October. Feels a like it might be dead.
Last commit was two weeks ago.
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Hey there!
Last year, I fell into the Fediverse-rabbithole and I really like it so far. We already have alternatives for Twitter/X, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit and so on.
But today I realized, there actually isn't an alternative for tinder. But I think there could be a huge demand for it.
This could also motivate people to change platforms, since no one wants to buy tinder premium for a lot of money.But I think I'm maybe not the first one coming up with this idea. What do you think about this?
~ sp3ctre
Dating is a numbers game, so ya gotta go where your preferences are.
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Let's not clone trash. Tinder sucks because it has no matching mechanism to filter out incompatible people. To find one interesting profile on Tinder I have to swipe about 500 profiles. To get more matches, I risk some false positives and like ~2% of profiles. Then I need to filter the matches in person. Very inefficient, a waste of time.
The opposite of that was OkCupid before Match Group destroyed it.
OKCupid was awesome. The questionnaire matched on a bunch of different categories and you could add clarification to the questions.
Bummer it sounds like it's toast. I met my wife on OKC.
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Just like match and okc you'd have to take a quiz and match against core values. Social media data mining would be a terrible way of matching.
I actually think observing your actual behaviour would be a better more honest way of matching.
And technically it's all public info so it's not technically a privacy issue; they'd get it over activitypub the same as all fediverse platforms already do.But it feels wrong to do.
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Then you’d need some organization with resources to store this data? You’d still need to trust someone to do this correctly.
Oh, I was more thinking in the context of a centralized service, although technically it should be possible to do this in a federated manner too. I don't think the resources would be an issue, but the liability of holding this data would be. I don't know how that works on sites that currently do this though.
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I actually think observing your actual behaviour would be a better more honest way of matching.
And technically it's all public info so it's not technically a privacy issue; they'd get it over activitypub the same as all fediverse platforms already do.But it feels wrong to do.
It would be, if it were comprehensive and applicable to match making, but I don't think for most people that can be gleaned from fedi. Most people only lurk, few even directly follow communities, and the content people do interact with likely does not represent them well unless they put themselves out there like that.
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It would be, if it were comprehensive and applicable to match making, but I don't think for most people that can be gleaned from fedi. Most people only lurk, few even directly follow communities, and the content people do interact with likely does not represent them well unless they put themselves out there like that.
Well put.
I guess I also don't really know the average users behavior, or more specifically typical fedi behavior of users who would use a matchmaking service.
I'm just highly skeptical of compatibility quizzes, it feels like there must be a better solution.
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I don't think control features help much when one of the most basic question that you can ask is "What is your gender and who would you like to date?". As I have already outlined in another comment in this thread, this information has to be shared with the federated network and is already enough to get people into serious trouble should it get into the wrong hands.
Alternatively think about it this way. Would you hand over this kind of information to a total stranger? Would you take on the responsibility of handling data that could literally kill someone if you make a mistake?
How about another type of control: by default your profile is not federated. Then you manually select the instances you trust. And your data getcs shared only with those. Dating usually is kind of local anyway. If i live in australiay I'm likely not interested in matches from the UK. So instances could already serve as some pre-selection based on your region and possibly community type.
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Even if you pay they have no incentive to get you to stop paying (i.e. find a partner).
If anything it's the opposite. They want user retention so they have an incentive to show you people that won't work long term.
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Dating is a numbers game, so ya gotta go where your preferences are.
i have a preference for big booty goth latinas, where do i go for that??
