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Romanian far-right candidate prematurely and falsely declares himself the winner of the election, proceeds to confuse the flags of Romania and Chad

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  • hubi@feddit.orgH [email protected]

    https://xcancel.com/georgesimion/status/1924166718122783128#m

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    #25

    "FALSE" in impact outline, above chad from the virgin-vs-chad meme template

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    • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

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      ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฎ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ป ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ณ

      ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ฌ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ถ ๐Ÿ‡พ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡พ

      The whole flag situation isn't really ideal.

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      #26

      When you are among the first: ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช (first but we're at bro-war with them: ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฐ)

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      • hubi@feddit.orgH [email protected]

        https://xcancel.com/georgesimion/status/1924166718122783128#m

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        The funniest part about all of this was that the exit polls were heavily biased against him. Like (last night was hectic so pardon my rounding errors) Nicusor Dan had 55% while this clown had 45% coming out of the exit polls, and yet he STILL claimed heโ€™d won :facepalm:

        Then he tried to pull a MAGA stunt and tweeted โ€œI am the president of the romanian people, count the votes correctly!โ€ Before finally conceding victory, all within the span of 3 hours. Needless to say, last night was a bit of a rollercoaster.

        For more context, at least how I saw this crapshot of an election, this far-right candidate, Simion, capitalized on the fact that thereโ€™s almost 6 million Romanians whoโ€™ve left their home country bound for the UK, Italy, Spain, Germany etc. He promised to bring them home, offered 2-room appartments at 35000โ‚ฌ (the Simion Plan he called it), bogus claims, promised to bring back industry into the country etc etc.

        Thing is , here in Romania the president has less powers than you might expect. Heโ€™s basically responsible for foreign affairs and representation, chief of the millitary and armed forces, and has the power to dissolve Parliment, but thatโ€™s about it. So even if he wanted to do the things he claimed heโ€™d do, he couldnโ€™t.

        Itโ€™s sad to see so many people voted for him. Heโ€™s riding off the backs of desperate people, who left families behind because doing, say, construction in Romania barely makes you a living wage. But the cognitive dissonance is what gets me: Simion was mostly voted by Diaspora, or the Romanians living in other countries. How can you, a Romanian living in letโ€™s say Germany, vote for someone who has an isolationist policy, who says โ€œhurr durr EU badโ€, while benefitting from all the EU has to offer? Itโ€™s simply insane.

        โ€ฆoh , man, that was a wall of text and a halfโ€ฆ

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        • hubi@feddit.orgH [email protected]

          https://xcancel.com/georgesimion/status/1924166718122783128#m

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          #28

          Didnt even know romania had elections. But i gladly woke up to those news

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          • T [email protected]

            The funniest part about all of this was that the exit polls were heavily biased against him. Like (last night was hectic so pardon my rounding errors) Nicusor Dan had 55% while this clown had 45% coming out of the exit polls, and yet he STILL claimed heโ€™d won :facepalm:

            Then he tried to pull a MAGA stunt and tweeted โ€œI am the president of the romanian people, count the votes correctly!โ€ Before finally conceding victory, all within the span of 3 hours. Needless to say, last night was a bit of a rollercoaster.

            For more context, at least how I saw this crapshot of an election, this far-right candidate, Simion, capitalized on the fact that thereโ€™s almost 6 million Romanians whoโ€™ve left their home country bound for the UK, Italy, Spain, Germany etc. He promised to bring them home, offered 2-room appartments at 35000โ‚ฌ (the Simion Plan he called it), bogus claims, promised to bring back industry into the country etc etc.

            Thing is , here in Romania the president has less powers than you might expect. Heโ€™s basically responsible for foreign affairs and representation, chief of the millitary and armed forces, and has the power to dissolve Parliment, but thatโ€™s about it. So even if he wanted to do the things he claimed heโ€™d do, he couldnโ€™t.

            Itโ€™s sad to see so many people voted for him. Heโ€™s riding off the backs of desperate people, who left families behind because doing, say, construction in Romania barely makes you a living wage. But the cognitive dissonance is what gets me: Simion was mostly voted by Diaspora, or the Romanians living in other countries. How can you, a Romanian living in letโ€™s say Germany, vote for someone who has an isolationist policy, who says โ€œhurr durr EU badโ€, while benefitting from all the EU has to offer? Itโ€™s simply insane.

            โ€ฆoh , man, that was a wall of text and a halfโ€ฆ

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            #29

            I think he's taking a page out of trump's book and is gonna claim stolen election and stuff.

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              simion putin

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              One of those rare cases when I very much approve of A-not-so-I

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              • microw@lemm.eeM [email protected]

                Can we talk about how "I am the new president of Romania" in itself is an absolutely stupid phrasing to use when prematurely declaring yourself the winner of an election?

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                #31

                Well he's a Chad!

                Seriously, I totally agree. It's dumb, and would have caused more legal problems had he won.

                These people are like little belligerent kids that just can't help themselves not to do exactly the thing adults just said is not OK to do.

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                  The funniest part about all of this was that the exit polls were heavily biased against him. Like (last night was hectic so pardon my rounding errors) Nicusor Dan had 55% while this clown had 45% coming out of the exit polls, and yet he STILL claimed heโ€™d won :facepalm:

                  Then he tried to pull a MAGA stunt and tweeted โ€œI am the president of the romanian people, count the votes correctly!โ€ Before finally conceding victory, all within the span of 3 hours. Needless to say, last night was a bit of a rollercoaster.

                  For more context, at least how I saw this crapshot of an election, this far-right candidate, Simion, capitalized on the fact that thereโ€™s almost 6 million Romanians whoโ€™ve left their home country bound for the UK, Italy, Spain, Germany etc. He promised to bring them home, offered 2-room appartments at 35000โ‚ฌ (the Simion Plan he called it), bogus claims, promised to bring back industry into the country etc etc.

                  Thing is , here in Romania the president has less powers than you might expect. Heโ€™s basically responsible for foreign affairs and representation, chief of the millitary and armed forces, and has the power to dissolve Parliment, but thatโ€™s about it. So even if he wanted to do the things he claimed heโ€™d do, he couldnโ€™t.

                  Itโ€™s sad to see so many people voted for him. Heโ€™s riding off the backs of desperate people, who left families behind because doing, say, construction in Romania barely makes you a living wage. But the cognitive dissonance is what gets me: Simion was mostly voted by Diaspora, or the Romanians living in other countries. How can you, a Romanian living in letโ€™s say Germany, vote for someone who has an isolationist policy, who says โ€œhurr durr EU badโ€, while benefitting from all the EU has to offer? Itโ€™s simply insane.

                  โ€ฆoh , man, that was a wall of text and a halfโ€ฆ

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                  How can you, a Romanian living in letโ€™s say Germany, vote for someone who has an isolationist policy

                  UK foreign expats living in Spain voted in favour of Brexit, and are now all upset that they have to leave and come back to the UK. They literally voted for this.

                  The basic problem is that most people don't actually bother to investigate the policies of the people they vote for, they treat it like a popularity contest and just vote for whoever they personally like. I'm of the opinion that people should be required to prove an understanding of proposed policies before they're actually allowed to vote, if only to the extent of a quick Google search while standing in the queue to vote.

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                  • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

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                    The whole flag situation isn't really ideal.

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                    #33

                    The problem is no one has any imagination.

                    Put a dragon setting fire to a castle on your flag or something, don't just have three stripes.

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                    • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

                      they look fine to me ๐Ÿ˜›

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                      That doesn't really solve the problem either. After all which country is IQ?

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                      • goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zoneG [email protected]

                        Didnt even know romania had elections. But i gladly woke up to those news

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                        I mean I assumed that they had elections. Most places do.

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                        • microw@lemm.eeM [email protected]

                          Can we talk about how "I am the new president of Romania" in itself is an absolutely stupid phrasing to use when prematurely declaring yourself the winner of an election?

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                          Notice how it's in English as well. That wasn't meant for the people of Romania, that was aimed at the rest of the EU, presumably as a sort of vague threat.

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                          • E [email protected]

                            That doesn't really solve the problem either. After all which country is IQ?

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                            Good thing the codes are an international standard https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2#IQ.

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                            • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

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                              The whole flag situation isn't really ideal.

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                              ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช

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                              • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

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                                The whole flag situation isn't really ideal.

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                                I have another one for you:
                                ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ป
                                On TV I often have to take a second look myself.

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                                • E [email protected]

                                  How can you, a Romanian living in letโ€™s say Germany, vote for someone who has an isolationist policy

                                  UK foreign expats living in Spain voted in favour of Brexit, and are now all upset that they have to leave and come back to the UK. They literally voted for this.

                                  The basic problem is that most people don't actually bother to investigate the policies of the people they vote for, they treat it like a popularity contest and just vote for whoever they personally like. I'm of the opinion that people should be required to prove an understanding of proposed policies before they're actually allowed to vote, if only to the extent of a quick Google search while standing in the queue to vote.

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                                  And their slogan is literally "we didn't vote for this" when they voted exactly for this. Not a smart bunch, those.

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    Don't forget ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฎ

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                                    And, if itโ€™s been out in the sun for a while, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น can start to look like ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช

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                                    • hubi@feddit.orgH [email protected]

                                      https://xcancel.com/georgesimion/status/1924166718122783128#m

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                                      TBF those flags are waaaaay too similar, and leaving the little logo off someone might just think the artist is being a little lazy or the design was simplified for emoji form. its happened before.

                                      edit: lol, its hilarious to me that people are downvoting this. are they not similar? Or are your feelings just hurt?

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                                      • chairmanmeow@programming.devC [email protected]

                                        Grok didn't seem to get why he wrote the flag of Chad though. I wonder if any other LLMs know the answer to that.

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                                        That's because AI models probably don't see emoji they probably just see the Unicode character but they don't actually know what it looks like.

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                                        • M [email protected]

                                          If I were a person wanting to be a far right leader of a country. Romania is one of the last places I would pick. At least when looking back at how the last dictatorial leader of the country left office.

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                                          I would have said the same thing about Israel but look how that turned out.

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