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"Pilot had to dive aggressively to avoid midair collision over Burbank airport."

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  • S [email protected]

    Once the flight smoothed out, Ulasewicz, who was traveling to Las Vegas, said the pilot made an announcement indicating the plane used software to avoid a midair collision.

    Apparently it was right before catering service and well into AP flight. As a europoor I only master Airbus so I don’t know how a 737 is supposed to respond to a TA/RA.

    Let’s wait for better sources than twitter and nbc.

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    https://abcnews.go.com/US/southwest-flight-abruptly-descends-avoid-mid-air-collision/story?id=124084290

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      https://abcnews.go.com/US/southwest-flight-abruptly-descends-avoid-mid-air-collision/story?id=124084290

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      More like an aeronautical source with knowledge about how things works in the industry, like https://avherald.com/h?article=52aca268&opt=0 or https://simpleflying.com/southwest-airlines-boeing-737-700-dives-475-avoid-collision-burbank/

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        They have seatbelts, but for the most of the flight they are unused - you only need to buckle in during takeoff, landing, and if when encountering turbulence.

        I guess there wasn't enough time to get all the passengers to fasten their seatbelts before the collision?

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        You should always have the belt on unless you are standing up for some reason. This story is exactly why.

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        • theneverfox@pawb.socialT [email protected]

          Yeah, but people are still going to be using the bathrooms and such, even if you assume everyone actually obeys the rules

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          Of course, but it should be the 2-4 people who are actively going somewhere / in the bathroom, everyone else should have their seatbelt on.

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            Once the flight smoothed out, Ulasewicz, who was traveling to Las Vegas, said the pilot made an announcement indicating the plane used software to avoid a midair collision.

            Apparently it was right before catering service and well into AP flight. As a europoor I only master Airbus so I don’t know how a 737 is supposed to respond to a TA/RA.

            Let’s wait for better sources than twitter and nbc.

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            The 737 won’t fly an RA on autopilot. We have to disconnect the autopilot and auto throttle and hand fly it. There’ll be a red box on the PFD that we just keep the pitch outside of, and we’ll be fine.

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            • I [email protected]

              This ain't no shitpost.

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              You're right, but I don't think The Internet cares.

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              • X [email protected]

                Finally, the freedom to have sick plane crashes thanks to deregulation 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅💥💥💥

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                Just to put this into perspective, here's a visualization of the flight data. The two aircraft were never on a collision course. They slightly violated a 5-mile separation requirement: their closest point of approach was 4.85 miles. The pilot did need to respond to the TCAS alert, but that alert was very conservative.

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                  News report: https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/southwest-flight-burbank-las-vegas/3753560/

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                  Visualization from flight data: https://youtu.be/VTAUMP2le3c

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                  • S [email protected]

                    The 737 won’t fly an RA on autopilot. We have to disconnect the autopilot and auto throttle and hand fly it. There’ll be a red box on the PFD that we just keep the pitch outside of, and we’ll be fine.

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                    Ok, I just looked at the737-NG PFD RA and it looks different from what I know but I wasn’t aware that you had to hand fly it.

                    As the aircraft was climbing and with the yoke I guess it’s easy to push it a bit too hard and spill some coffee.

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                      Exactly. I don't say those things at work anymore because they are too many of them.

                      I can't help wondering if they are remorseful.

                      One thing I know is people don't like to be told. I stop correcting them. The more we point out their flaws, the more irrationally they will hold on to the false beliefs

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                      They will instead irrationality believe that it's working in their favour and be emboldened. They didn't reach their position by being rational. Don't let a bully tell you that you deserved it after he punches you in the face.

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                        Remind us who cut funding to FAA?

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                        This is Joe Biden s fault. I don't mean he cut funding or anything like that, I mean he was literally flying the other plane. It was full of woke trans immigrants headed to Texas so Democrats can get more votes while simultaneously rigging the election.

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                          • A [email protected]

                            They have seatbelts, but for the most of the flight they are unused - you only need to buckle in during takeoff, landing, and if when encountering turbulence.

                            I guess there wasn't enough time to get all the passengers to fasten their seatbelts before the collision?

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                            I wonder if you've ever listened to the part of the safety briefing before every flight where they instruct you to keep the seatbelt fastened throughout the entire flight.

                            Judging by the number of clicks I hear when the seatbelt light turns off, I'd say most people don't.

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                              I'm flying out of Burbank Monday 😃

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                                Of course, but it should be the 2-4 people who are actively going somewhere / in the bathroom, everyone else should have their seatbelt on.

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                                And airplanes shouldn't be in each other's airspace

                                I don't know what you're trying to say, the airplanes nearly running into each other is the clear problem

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                                  Because everybody on the plane shit themselves.

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                                    Put your fking seatbelts on. All the time.

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                                      I'm flying out of Burbank Monday 😃

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                                      keep your seatbelt on or that might be true more ways than one.

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                                      • theneverfox@pawb.socialT [email protected]

                                        And airplanes shouldn't be in each other's airspace

                                        I don't know what you're trying to say, the airplanes nearly running into each other is the clear problem

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                                        There are things you can control and things you can't. I can't keep the planes out of each other's airspace, but I can keep my seat belt on.

                                        That would be more insightful if I wasn't a pilot...

                                        ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
                                        I'm not.
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                                        • S [email protected]

                                          Planes are the safest form of transportation if you look at safety per km travelled. If you look at other metrics, like safety per trip or per travel time then they are less safe than busses or trains.

                                          https://travel.stackexchange.com/a/184330

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                                          Last time I posted something about this, it was downvoted to oblivion. Glad to see that didn’t happen here. There are some statistical quirks that make this obvious once you think about it though.

                                          Planes tend to make long trips, so anything measured on a per-km basis is going to be wildly diluted. Nobody is taking a plane to travel a few blocks. Something like a car will tend to make much shorter (but more frequent) trips, so the per-km stat won’t be diluted. But inversely, the per-trip stat will be diluted with cars, purely because they’re used much more often.

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