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"Pilot had to dive aggressively to avoid midair collision over Burbank airport."

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      They have seatbelts, but for the most of the flight they are unused - you only need to buckle in during takeoff, landing, and if when encountering turbulence.

      I guess there wasn't enough time to get all the passengers to fasten their seatbelts before the collision?

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      I wonder if you've ever listened to the part of the safety briefing before every flight where they instruct you to keep the seatbelt fastened throughout the entire flight.

      Judging by the number of clicks I hear when the seatbelt light turns off, I'd say most people don't.

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        I'm flying out of Burbank Monday 😃

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          Of course, but it should be the 2-4 people who are actively going somewhere / in the bathroom, everyone else should have their seatbelt on.

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          And airplanes shouldn't be in each other's airspace

          I don't know what you're trying to say, the airplanes nearly running into each other is the clear problem

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            Because everybody on the plane shit themselves.

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              Put your fking seatbelts on. All the time.

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                I'm flying out of Burbank Monday 😃

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                keep your seatbelt on or that might be true more ways than one.

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                  And airplanes shouldn't be in each other's airspace

                  I don't know what you're trying to say, the airplanes nearly running into each other is the clear problem

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                  There are things you can control and things you can't. I can't keep the planes out of each other's airspace, but I can keep my seat belt on.

                  That would be more insightful if I wasn't a pilot...

                  ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
                  I'm not.
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                    Planes are the safest form of transportation if you look at safety per km travelled. If you look at other metrics, like safety per trip or per travel time then they are less safe than busses or trains.

                    https://travel.stackexchange.com/a/184330

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                    Last time I posted something about this, it was downvoted to oblivion. Glad to see that didn’t happen here. There are some statistical quirks that make this obvious once you think about it though.

                    Planes tend to make long trips, so anything measured on a per-km basis is going to be wildly diluted. Nobody is taking a plane to travel a few blocks. Something like a car will tend to make much shorter (but more frequent) trips, so the per-km stat won’t be diluted. But inversely, the per-trip stat will be diluted with cars, purely because they’re used much more often.

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                      Planes are the safest form of transportation if you look at safety per km travelled. If you look at other metrics, like safety per trip or per travel time then they are less safe than busses or trains.

                      https://travel.stackexchange.com/a/184330

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                      Bus and Rail rules.

                      Motorcycles are for the young who don't want to get old.

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                        stuff like this is why i'm lowkey terrified of flying
                        also this isn't a shitpost

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                        • theneverfox@pawb.socialT [email protected]

                          And airplanes shouldn't be in each other's airspace

                          I don't know what you're trying to say, the airplanes nearly running into each other is the clear problem

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                          Check out John Oliver's take on air traffic control on LWT

                          I was a kid when Reagan fired all the striking air traffic controllers. It turns out it takes a long time to train them, so we haven't recovered from that one incident. It also means all ATCs are overworked, still underpaid and using outdated hardware and methods.

                          Air travel was screwed even before Trump defunded the FAA.

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                            stuff like this is why i'm lowkey terrified of flying
                            also this isn't a shitpost

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                            I can assure you some pants were shit on that flight

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                              Anything about Jimmy Dore is a shitpost but which sub or whatever is this more suitable for?

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                                Just to put this into perspective, here's a visualization of the flight data. The two aircraft were never on a collision course. They slightly violated a 5-mile separation requirement: their closest point of approach was 4.85 miles. The pilot did need to respond to the TCAS alert, but that alert was very conservative.

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                                These conservative warnings exist for a reason, though. That being hundreds of lives at stake. What I think would be more interesting is to hear how often these types of events occurred before and after the layoffs at the FAA

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                                  Jimmy Dore is not a reliable source.

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                                  • theneverfox@pawb.socialT [email protected]

                                    Yeah, but people are still going to be using the bathrooms and such, even if you assume everyone actually obeys the rules

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                                    because of a few exception cases this is never going to work

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                                      This is very dangerous. Time to remove regulations for collision warning systems on airplanes, so dangerous maneuvers like this don’t happen in the future

                                      ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
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                                      Time a different kind of fireworks.

                                      The kind that only happens near airports.
                                      Hopefully, some of the billionaires who wanted this shit will be part of the fireworks

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                                        There are things you can control and things you can't. I can't keep the planes out of each other's airspace, but I can keep my seat belt on.

                                        That would be more insightful if I wasn't a pilot...

                                        ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
                                        I'm not.
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                                        Yeah, that'll keep you from getting slammed on the ceiling...in a situation that should never, ever happen. Which I'd over a midair collision, in which case you're just screwed no matter what you do

                                        I don't blame the pilot either, they did their job properly. It was the military that failed to coordinate with the civilian air control tower, which also could have been avoided if the civilian tower had radar

                                        What should you do? Demand better. Not think "I would have been fine, they must've been stupid"

                                        You can't protect against every freak event, what you can do is be one drop in the wave that demands competence from our government

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                                          Yeah, that'll keep you from getting slammed on the ceiling...in a situation that should never, ever happen. Which I'd over a midair collision, in which case you're just screwed no matter what you do

                                          I don't blame the pilot either, they did their job properly. It was the military that failed to coordinate with the civilian air control tower, which also could have been avoided if the civilian tower had radar

                                          What should you do? Demand better. Not think "I would have been fine, they must've been stupid"

                                          You can't protect against every freak event, what you can do is be one drop in the wave that demands competence from our government

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                                          There are certainly things that can be done better. My instance should give an idea about how much my government can do about this problem. That said, just like in a car, there is no good reason you shouldn't be wearing your seat belt most of the time. And there are plenty of situations they can't fix, such as clear-air turbulence. But the seat belt still helps.

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