"Pilot had to dive aggressively to avoid midair collision over Burbank airport."
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I'm flying out of Burbank Monday
keep your seatbelt on or that might be true more ways than one.
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And airplanes shouldn't be in each other's airspace
I don't know what you're trying to say, the airplanes nearly running into each other is the clear problem
There are things you can control and things you can't. I can't keep the planes out of each other's airspace, but I can keep my seat belt on.
That would be more insightful if I wasn't a pilot...
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I'm not.
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Planes are the safest form of transportation if you look at safety per km travelled. If you look at other metrics, like safety per trip or per travel time then they are less safe than busses or trains.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Last time I posted something about this, it was downvoted to oblivion. Glad to see that didn’t happen here. There are some statistical quirks that make this obvious once you think about it though.
Planes tend to make long trips, so anything measured on a per-km basis is going to be wildly diluted. Nobody is taking a plane to travel a few blocks. Something like a car will tend to make much shorter (but more frequent) trips, so the per-km stat won’t be diluted. But inversely, the per-trip stat will be diluted with cars, purely because they’re used much more often.
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Planes are the safest form of transportation if you look at safety per km travelled. If you look at other metrics, like safety per trip or per travel time then they are less safe than busses or trains.
Bus and Rail rules.
Motorcycles are for the young who don't want to get old.
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stuff like this is why i'm lowkey terrified of flying
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And airplanes shouldn't be in each other's airspace
I don't know what you're trying to say, the airplanes nearly running into each other is the clear problem
Check out John Oliver's take on air traffic control on LWT
I was a kid when Reagan fired all the striking air traffic controllers. It turns out it takes a long time to train them, so we haven't recovered from that one incident. It also means all ATCs are overworked, still underpaid and using outdated hardware and methods.
Air travel was screwed even before Trump defunded the FAA.
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stuff like this is why i'm lowkey terrified of flying
also this isn't a shitpostI can assure you some pants were shit on that flight
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Anything about Jimmy Dore is a shitpost but which sub or whatever is this more suitable for?
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Just to put this into perspective, here's a visualization of the flight data. The two aircraft were never on a collision course. They slightly violated a 5-mile separation requirement: their closest point of approach was 4.85 miles. The pilot did need to respond to the TCAS alert, but that alert was very conservative.
wrote last edited by [email protected]These conservative warnings exist for a reason, though. That being hundreds of lives at stake. What I think would be more interesting is to hear how often these types of events occurred before and after the layoffs at the FAA
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Jimmy Dore is not a reliable source.
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Yeah, but people are still going to be using the bathrooms and such, even if you assume everyone actually obeys the rules
because of a few exception cases this is never going to work
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This is very dangerous. Time to remove regulations for collision warning systems on airplanes, so dangerous maneuvers like this don’t happen in the future
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:::Time a different kind of fireworks.
The kind that only happens near airports.
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There are things you can control and things you can't. I can't keep the planes out of each other's airspace, but I can keep my seat belt on.
That would be more insightful if I wasn't a pilot...
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I'm not.
:::Yeah, that'll keep you from getting slammed on the ceiling...in a situation that should never, ever happen. Which I'd over a midair collision, in which case you're just screwed no matter what you do
I don't blame the pilot either, they did their job properly. It was the military that failed to coordinate with the civilian air control tower, which also could have been avoided if the civilian tower had radar
What should you do? Demand better. Not think "I would have been fine, they must've been stupid"
You can't protect against every freak event, what you can do is be one drop in the wave that demands competence from our government
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Yeah, that'll keep you from getting slammed on the ceiling...in a situation that should never, ever happen. Which I'd over a midair collision, in which case you're just screwed no matter what you do
I don't blame the pilot either, they did their job properly. It was the military that failed to coordinate with the civilian air control tower, which also could have been avoided if the civilian tower had radar
What should you do? Demand better. Not think "I would have been fine, they must've been stupid"
You can't protect against every freak event, what you can do is be one drop in the wave that demands competence from our government
There are certainly things that can be done better. My instance should give an idea about how much my government can do about this problem. That said, just like in a car, there is no good reason you shouldn't be wearing your seat belt most of the time. And there are plenty of situations they can't fix, such as clear-air turbulence. But the seat belt still helps.
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Check out John Oliver's take on air traffic control on LWT
I was a kid when Reagan fired all the striking air traffic controllers. It turns out it takes a long time to train them, so we haven't recovered from that one incident. It also means all ATCs are overworked, still underpaid and using outdated hardware and methods.
Air travel was screwed even before Trump defunded the FAA.
Fair, but it has gotten very noticably worse based on Trump's deregulation catching up on the aircrafts and the latest round of forcing out air traffic control
Also, I didn't know you could just say "all pronouns". I like that a lot, I'm really uncomfortable putting myself in boxes and that describes my preferences very succinctly
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stuff like this is why i'm lowkey terrified of flying
also this isn't a shitpostYeah, shitpost needs some better moderation. Shitpost has literally just become post whatever you want. And if that's what it is, I guess that's what it is, but the term "shitpost" to me had always been someone coming and derailing serious threads with nonsense opinions, unrelated pics, etc. So silly trolling.
This post is a picture of a tweet about a near mid-air collision. Unless the second plane was just fucking around, shitflying as they say, I don't know that it qualifies for the low, low bar that is shitposting.
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This is Joe Biden s fault. I don't mean he cut funding or anything like that, I mean he was literally flying the other plane. It was full of woke trans immigrants headed to Texas so Democrats can get more votes while simultaneously rigging the election.
Your response here is an excellent example of shitposting. You are the new moderator. Keep up the shitty work.
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I'm flying out of Burbank Monday
It's cool, this was their incident, so clock reset. Can't happen twice in so short a span, no way!
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There are certainly things that can be done better. My instance should give an idea about how much my government can do about this problem. That said, just like in a car, there is no good reason you shouldn't be wearing your seat belt most of the time. And there are plenty of situations they can't fix, such as clear-air turbulence. But the seat belt still helps.
It applies to everyone - you've had an event this year too. I should have said our governments
Air traffic control is just not an individual thing. Not even an individual country thing.
And I'm aware of unexpected turbulence...I just don't see getting banged about that big a deal. Shit happens. Wrong place, wrong time... Sure, put on your seatbelt when you're sitting down, but even if you don't you're probably not going to die from it
But planes nearly colliding? Actually colliding? That should never happen... It's a 3D arena, the sky is huge. Planes should neither fall apart nor be anywhere near each other without coordination
We made air travel very safe with old technology, for a long time too. This is a very recent problem, and totally unacceptable
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Planes are the safest form of transportation if you look at safety per km travelled. If you look at other metrics, like safety per trip or per travel time then they are less safe than busses or trains.
As with all statistics, you can make the numbers say what we you want. Planes can carry 500+ people, so an incident risks all 500 of those passengers; similar for rail, but not so much for the bus. And I think about bus and there's two different kinds of buses, IMO, the inner city bus that's on the road for hours, but doing few miles while making frequent stops. Not sure what a journey is then, whether it's stop by stop or from start to finish. And there's
So yeah, I dunno. If it's your time it's your time. I don't think any of these means of travel are "unsafe," whatever that means. But I'll still have a couple of beers before I get on the plane, because I'm not afraid of flying, but having a couple beers beforehand makes it better.
