Teenage German tourists deported from Hawaii over ‘suspicious’ hotel booking
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Yeah, with you on this. I know in the past these arrangements have been very lenient but the recent political developments just show this isn't the case anymore. It is very silly right now to admit you wanted to work on a tourist visa.
About having no bookings yet, that part was always sketchy. I went 15 years ago to the US for a 4 week trip and had only lined up the first hostel for a few days, the rest I had not planned yet, luckily got no questions but worried about it back then already.. Guess this is a thing of the past now.
The treatment however is definitely over the line.
It is very silly right now to admit you wanted to work on a tourist visa.
Where did they admit that?
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Also, it's not bulls. It's pigs, but the RPG kind of murder-pig with metal plating and steel-tipped tusks.
You mind doing me a favour? Please.
Stop calling cops pigs. It's idiotic, ridiculous and insultuous towards actual pigs.
If you feel the need to throw insults, do so; just make use of some imagination. Don't be afraid of being baroqe.
Call them door kickers, grave fillers, trigger jockeys, wall jumpers... Say they're as sharp as an army boot or that they're a waste of fresh air or unneeded space filling.
Just make it an actual insult, not a comparison to an animal that does not deserve it.
Or better yet, despise them to such a point that you make the word cop an insult by itself.
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I've been stuck in customs for "not having enough money on me", despite credit cards and ATMs existing. It depends HUGELY on which individual you get in the US.
It also depends on whether your particular border piggie hates your sort of person or not.
My wife was on a green card when we lived in the US. Whenever we traveled together, no problem. But when she'd enter the US on her own, odds were high that some CPB asshole would harass her. And it didn't help that she's not a person who will put up with shit. Once she was held for six hours because they asked her what she'd been doing outside the US.
"Travel. I visited three European cities with my sister."
"Why were you travelling?"
"It broadens the mind. I recommend it."
Now I'm on the UK green-card equivalent (ILR) and all I get from the border agents when I enter is some friendly chit-chat.
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It seems like themselves admitted that they intended to work?
In what capacity?
They're teenagers. Probably they're secretly doing a bit of brain surgery on the side to get walking-around money during their backpacking trip.
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About having no bookings yet, that part was always sketchy. I went 15 years ago to the US for a 4 week trip and had only lined up the first hostel for a few days, the rest I had not planned yet, luckily got no questions but worried about it back then already… Guess this is a thing of the past now.
Huh? You base "was always sketchy" on your personal feelings doing that yourself 15 years ago?
I really don't see what's sketchy about not booking four weeks ahead.
I'm more of a planner, but my grandparents get in their car and drive through and around Italy without a single stay pre-planned.
I don't see how that's suspicious or sketchy at all.
I am saying that from the view of border control. What I read back then as advice was very mixed and seemed to depend on you having luck that the person in front of you didn't care. Already back then without the political climate we have now.
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It is very silly right now to admit you wanted to work on a tourist visa.
Where did they admit that?
It's not in this article, there were plenty of others posted where it was mentioned.
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They found it suspicious that we hadn't fully booked our accommodations for the entire five weeks in Hawaii
Fuckin seriously? We all know what backpacking is. I've never pre-booked an entire stay when traveling internationally except when it's for work.
Yeah wtf... I even traveled to countries where I had no place for the night, but knew I would get one spontaneously. Not great in certain countries, and you gotta know that, but 5 weeks?
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So. Fucking. What? This world is retarded and you're definitely doing your part.
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You mind doing me a favour? Please.
Stop calling cops pigs. It's idiotic, ridiculous and insultuous towards actual pigs.
If you feel the need to throw insults, do so; just make use of some imagination. Don't be afraid of being baroqe.
Call them door kickers, grave fillers, trigger jockeys, wall jumpers... Say they're as sharp as an army boot or that they're a waste of fresh air or unneeded space filling.
Just make it an actual insult, not a comparison to an animal that does not deserve it.
Or better yet, despise them to such a point that you make the word cop an insult by itself.
You have a point. It was a joke to redirect the bull metaphor to a different animal, force of habit.
On the other hand, the term "pig" for Cops has become rather detached from the animal, just like Motherfucker doesn't actually imply incestuous sexual relations.
But you have a point all the same.
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You mind doing me a favour? Please.
Stop calling cops pigs. It's idiotic, ridiculous and insultuous towards actual pigs.
If you feel the need to throw insults, do so; just make use of some imagination. Don't be afraid of being baroqe.
Call them door kickers, grave fillers, trigger jockeys, wall jumpers... Say they're as sharp as an army boot or that they're a waste of fresh air or unneeded space filling.
Just make it an actual insult, not a comparison to an animal that does not deserve it.
Or better yet, despise them to such a point that you make the word cop an insult by itself.
It's a universally accepted term we've been using for over a century. Get over it.
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‘We had already noticed a little bit of what was going on in the U.S. But at the time, we didn't think it was happening to Germans,’ Maria Lepère says
Welcome to the real world. Pity they had to find out this way, but maybe it'll rattle them enough to [email protected] and [email protected]
At least they learnt to not sign some shit the immigration officer wrote down on a whim. I guess everyone needs to learn that immigration officers can be hostile.
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It's a universally accepted term we've been using for over a century. Get over it.
Nope. Grow a mind and learn proper insult, hot breath.
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Nope. Grow a mind and learn proper insult, hot breath.
Then continue to be upset, dipshit. No one's stopping on your behalf, so I guess have fun writing these paragraphs every time you see it used.
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Yeah wtf... I even traveled to countries where I had no place for the night, but knew I would get one spontaneously. Not great in certain countries, and you gotta know that, but 5 weeks?
Both of you are crazy. I'd never book a trip anywhere without the accommodations secured several months in advance. If I had to deal with the stress of finding the perfect hotel after I've already arrived at my destination, I'd probably have a panic attack.
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It seems like themselves admitted that they intended to work?
In what capacity?
I don't know but that's what the post you were replying to stated and you just ignored it.
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Then continue to be upset, dipshit. No one's stopping on your behalf, so I guess have fun writing these paragraphs every time you see it used.
Someone as a tender spot.
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Both of you are crazy. I'd never book a trip anywhere without the accommodations secured several months in advance. If I had to deal with the stress of finding the perfect hotel after I've already arrived at my destination, I'd probably have a panic attack.
This was when I was backpacking in Europe. These days it would stress me out too.
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I don't know but that's what the post you were replying to stated and you just ignored it.
I don’t know but that’s what the post you were replying to stated and you just ignored it.
I do tend to ignore posts that come without references or explanations, that's true.
But that's beside the point I was raising - I'll rephrase: I find it hard to believe that there is anything two Middle European kids vacationing in Hawaii could ever do to even remotely approach any sane definition of 'working without a permit' to warrant immediate deportation. Whether they did or didn't actually intend to defraud the Federal Government over 20$ in beach bar tip money taxes doesn't really factor into that argument, does it? -
They found it suspicious that we hadn't fully booked our accommodations for the entire five weeks in Hawaii
Fuckin seriously? We all know what backpacking is. I've never pre-booked an entire stay when traveling internationally except when it's for work.
Not that this justifies the response of the US, but the phrasing is ambiguous. Wonder if they mean this in the sense of, they had booked accommodations for some but not the entire of their trip, or if they mean, they had booked none at all so their entire trip was open.
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Not that this justifies the response of the US, but the phrasing is ambiguous. Wonder if they mean this in the sense of, they had booked accommodations for some but not the entire of their trip, or if they mean, they had booked none at all so their entire trip was open.
Backpackers commonly book no accommodations ahead of time. I've done that plenty.
Arrive at airport. Get cab. Drive to hotel number 1 and ask about room. Drive or walk to hotel 2 and ask about room. Repeat as often as desired. Return to hotel with best deal.
I can't count how many times I've done this, having zero specific plans about where I am going to stay. Sometimes I just take the first hotel and then on the next day go look for something better. This is totally normal backpacker behavior.
