Teenage German tourists deported from Hawaii over ‘suspicious’ hotel booking
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‘We had already noticed a little bit of what was going on in the U.S. But at the time, we didn't think it was happening to Germans,’ Maria Lepère says
Welcome to the real world. Pity they had to find out this way, but maybe it'll rattle them enough to [email protected] and [email protected]
At least they learnt to not sign some shit the immigration officer wrote down on a whim. I guess everyone needs to learn that immigration officers can be hostile.
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It's a universally accepted term we've been using for over a century. Get over it.
Nope. Grow a mind and learn proper insult, hot breath.
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Nope. Grow a mind and learn proper insult, hot breath.
Then continue to be upset, dipshit. No one's stopping on your behalf, so I guess have fun writing these paragraphs every time you see it used.
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Yeah wtf... I even traveled to countries where I had no place for the night, but knew I would get one spontaneously. Not great in certain countries, and you gotta know that, but 5 weeks?
Both of you are crazy. I'd never book a trip anywhere without the accommodations secured several months in advance. If I had to deal with the stress of finding the perfect hotel after I've already arrived at my destination, I'd probably have a panic attack.
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It seems like themselves admitted that they intended to work?
In what capacity?
I don't know but that's what the post you were replying to stated and you just ignored it.
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Then continue to be upset, dipshit. No one's stopping on your behalf, so I guess have fun writing these paragraphs every time you see it used.
Someone as a tender spot.
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Both of you are crazy. I'd never book a trip anywhere without the accommodations secured several months in advance. If I had to deal with the stress of finding the perfect hotel after I've already arrived at my destination, I'd probably have a panic attack.
This was when I was backpacking in Europe. These days it would stress me out too.
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I don't know but that's what the post you were replying to stated and you just ignored it.
I don’t know but that’s what the post you were replying to stated and you just ignored it.
I do tend to ignore posts that come without references or explanations, that's true.
But that's beside the point I was raising - I'll rephrase: I find it hard to believe that there is anything two Middle European kids vacationing in Hawaii could ever do to even remotely approach any sane definition of 'working without a permit' to warrant immediate deportation. Whether they did or didn't actually intend to defraud the Federal Government over 20$ in beach bar tip money taxes doesn't really factor into that argument, does it? -
They found it suspicious that we hadn't fully booked our accommodations for the entire five weeks in Hawaii
Fuckin seriously? We all know what backpacking is. I've never pre-booked an entire stay when traveling internationally except when it's for work.
Not that this justifies the response of the US, but the phrasing is ambiguous. Wonder if they mean this in the sense of, they had booked accommodations for some but not the entire of their trip, or if they mean, they had booked none at all so their entire trip was open.
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Not that this justifies the response of the US, but the phrasing is ambiguous. Wonder if they mean this in the sense of, they had booked accommodations for some but not the entire of their trip, or if they mean, they had booked none at all so their entire trip was open.
Backpackers commonly book no accommodations ahead of time. I've done that plenty.
Arrive at airport. Get cab. Drive to hotel number 1 and ask about room. Drive or walk to hotel 2 and ask about room. Repeat as often as desired. Return to hotel with best deal.
I can't count how many times I've done this, having zero specific plans about where I am going to stay. Sometimes I just take the first hotel and then on the next day go look for something better. This is totally normal backpacker behavior.
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I honestly kind of feel bad for Hawaii TBH. They need to gather the courage to secede and declare independence. Most of them voted Democrat, and as a chain of islands right smack-dab in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, they deserve better than to bear the consequences of all this insanity far away.
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Still Tax fraud and visa fraud. Works like this in most countries.
Not that I agree with these extreme measures. Most of Europe doesn't care but still: as ilegal in the US as it would be if an American tourist did the same in Germany.
Like if I work for Intel and I'm on travel visa, I can't answer some emails or do a zoom meet with my team for updates or something?
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One bonus - they won't be spending any more money in the US.
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Both of you are crazy. I'd never book a trip anywhere without the accommodations secured several months in advance. If I had to deal with the stress of finding the perfect hotel after I've already arrived at my destination, I'd probably have a panic attack.
Doesn't have to be the perfect hotel. Slept in a repurposed restaurant kitchen for ~5€ one night in the Taiwanese countryside. Damn I miss being 20.
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One bonus - they won't be spending any more money in the US.
I don't know who needs to hear this but -- DON'T COME HERE. The only thing these morons will listen to is money.
Please collapse the tourism industry.
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Both of you are crazy. I'd never book a trip anywhere without the accommodations secured several months in advance. If I had to deal with the stress of finding the perfect hotel after I've already arrived at my destination, I'd probably have a panic attack.
But that's not backpacking. It's a journey without those limits to allow you freedom to change your mind.
I didn't do it much but when I backpacked I tended to avoid public transport (hitch hiking) and would often just sleep in a city park or railway station. Different times now but it was part of the journey
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It's not in this article, there were plenty of others posted where it was mentioned.
Could you perhaps share one?
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Sorry that was from a different article. Same incident.
Curious, that article mentions that "The incident was first reported by Ostsee-Zeitung, a major German daily newspaper." and links to this article.
That original article contains the following passage:
Teil der Reisepapiere waren die von ihnen unterschriebenen Verhörprotokolle. „Da standen Sätze drin, die wir so gar nicht gesagt haben“, sagt Charlotte Pohl. „Die haben es so hingedreht, dass wir zugegeben hätten, dass wir illegal in den USA arbeiten wollen.“
Part of the travel documents were the interrogation protocols signed by them. “There were sentences in there that we didn't say at all,” says Charlotte Pohl. “They twisted it so that we had admitted that we wanted to work illegally in the USA.”
Yet usatoday only reports the allegations, not the denial.
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Someone as a tender spot.
Says the guy crying over the word "pigs" like a PETA-member
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Both of you are crazy. I'd never book a trip anywhere without the accommodations secured several months in advance. If I had to deal with the stress of finding the perfect hotel after I've already arrived at my destination, I'd probably have a panic attack.
My children, at the time ages 20 and 22, backpacked around Europe. They stayed at hostels and didn’t have reservations. (Their favourite was Amsterdam. Scotland was a close second!)
