Recommend me a controller.
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Hal Effect sticks are a must. I'm looking for a controller because my PS4 controller has some pretty horrible stick drift. I don't want a repeat of that.
PlayStation layout is also a must. Never understood the appeal of the wonky xbox layout.
Must also ship to Europe. Preferably a company from Europe. But outside of Europe also works if shipping and customs don't add twice the controller's cost to the price.
I'm asking this in Linux Gaming, so obviously must work with Linux (though so far I've had less issues getting controllers to work on my Linux desktop than I've had with Windows).
Well, the Playstation layout is severely limiting. I recently bought a GameSir Tarantula and it's really awesome, but it only has Xbox/Switch physical layout.
It can present itself as a Playstation controller to the system, though, so it will be detected as such, but the physical buttons won't match. But if you don't need that and are more interested in games recognising you have a PS controller, it could work for you.
I use it with my Steam Deck, so it works well for Linux.
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Hal Effect sticks are a must. I'm looking for a controller because my PS4 controller has some pretty horrible stick drift. I don't want a repeat of that.
PlayStation layout is also a must. Never understood the appeal of the wonky xbox layout.
Must also ship to Europe. Preferably a company from Europe. But outside of Europe also works if shipping and customs don't add twice the controller's cost to the price.
I'm asking this in Linux Gaming, so obviously must work with Linux (though so far I've had less issues getting controllers to work on my Linux desktop than I've had with Windows).
wrote on last edited by [email protected]DualSense or a Logitech F310 (F710 if you need wireless).
The Logitech controllers are solid, sturdy, use the PSX layout (they're designed after the OG dualshock), and inexpensive.
Idk what kind of sensors they use, but I've had my F310 since they launched and it's still in perfect condition.
DualSense doesn't use hall effect sensors, but I've also had these for 3+ years now, used daily, no issues. But you can replace the sensors if you want to.
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Hal Effect sticks are a must. I'm looking for a controller because my PS4 controller has some pretty horrible stick drift. I don't want a repeat of that.
PlayStation layout is also a must. Never understood the appeal of the wonky xbox layout.
Must also ship to Europe. Preferably a company from Europe. But outside of Europe also works if shipping and customs don't add twice the controller's cost to the price.
I'm asking this in Linux Gaming, so obviously must work with Linux (though so far I've had less issues getting controllers to work on my Linux desktop than I've had with Windows).
I use XBOX only because it's the only controller that still accepts AA batteries, which means I can use rechargeable ones and swap them out when they're dead without ever being tethered to a charging cable.
I also pop them open and rip out the rumble motors because I hate them.
If you want to living room PC experience you can still buy Steam controllers on FleeBay.
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DualSense or a Logitech F310 (F710 if you need wireless).
The Logitech controllers are solid, sturdy, use the PSX layout (they're designed after the OG dualshock), and inexpensive.
Idk what kind of sensors they use, but I've had my F310 since they launched and it's still in perfect condition.
DualSense doesn't use hall effect sensors, but I've also had these for 3+ years now, used daily, no issues. But you can replace the sensors if you want to.
I've had my F310 for close to ten years now. It still works pretty good.
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Well, the Playstation layout is severely limiting. I recently bought a GameSir Tarantula and it's really awesome, but it only has Xbox/Switch physical layout.
It can present itself as a Playstation controller to the system, though, so it will be detected as such, but the physical buttons won't match. But if you don't need that and are more interested in games recognising you have a PS controller, it could work for you.
I use it with my Steam Deck, so it works well for Linux.
Which one did you buy? I have the tarantula pro and it has the playstation layout
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Hal Effect sticks are a must. I'm looking for a controller because my PS4 controller has some pretty horrible stick drift. I don't want a repeat of that.
PlayStation layout is also a must. Never understood the appeal of the wonky xbox layout.
Must also ship to Europe. Preferably a company from Europe. But outside of Europe also works if shipping and customs don't add twice the controller's cost to the price.
I'm asking this in Linux Gaming, so obviously must work with Linux (though so far I've had less issues getting controllers to work on my Linux desktop than I've had with Windows).
8Bitdo Pro 2 is the only one I can think of off the top of my head. Not entirely sure where they're made, but I'm pretty sure they sell to Europe.
On Linux, you'd have to follow these instructions to do firmware updates, since their update tool only works on Mac and Windows. I have a 8Bitdo SN30 Pro+ and its been perfectly fine on Linux.As an aside, if you, or anyone reading this is comfortable with soldering. Gulikit sells Hall Effect Sticks that can be retrofit into both the Dualshock 4 and the Dualsense, if you're looking for that Playstation stick layout. (I believe Gulikit also provides the hall effect sticks that 8bitdo uses)
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Hal Effect sticks are a must. I'm looking for a controller because my PS4 controller has some pretty horrible stick drift. I don't want a repeat of that.
PlayStation layout is also a must. Never understood the appeal of the wonky xbox layout.
Must also ship to Europe. Preferably a company from Europe. But outside of Europe also works if shipping and customs don't add twice the controller's cost to the price.
I'm asking this in Linux Gaming, so obviously must work with Linux (though so far I've had less issues getting controllers to work on my Linux desktop than I've had with Windows).
I don't know about shipping to Europe but GameSir has the Tarantula Pro which I have, and despite being partial to the Xbox layout I've been enjoying. I know 8bitDo also has a Playstation style controller with hall effect sticks and that people who have tend to like them, but I don't have one so I can't comment on it
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Well, the Playstation layout is severely limiting. I recently bought a GameSir Tarantula and it's really awesome, but it only has Xbox/Switch physical layout.
It can present itself as a Playstation controller to the system, though, so it will be detected as such, but the physical buttons won't match. But if you don't need that and are more interested in games recognising you have a PS controller, it could work for you.
I use it with my Steam Deck, so it works well for Linux.
I want the PS layout. I don't care how the system recognizes it so long as it just works.
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Hal Effect sticks are a must. I'm looking for a controller because my PS4 controller has some pretty horrible stick drift. I don't want a repeat of that.
PlayStation layout is also a must. Never understood the appeal of the wonky xbox layout.
Must also ship to Europe. Preferably a company from Europe. But outside of Europe also works if shipping and customs don't add twice the controller's cost to the price.
I'm asking this in Linux Gaming, so obviously must work with Linux (though so far I've had less issues getting controllers to work on my Linux desktop than I've had with Windows).
I still love the dualshock 3. Recently bought two more from ebay because my first one is half broken.
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Hal Effect sticks are a must. I'm looking for a controller because my PS4 controller has some pretty horrible stick drift. I don't want a repeat of that.
PlayStation layout is also a must. Never understood the appeal of the wonky xbox layout.
Must also ship to Europe. Preferably a company from Europe. But outside of Europe also works if shipping and customs don't add twice the controller's cost to the price.
I'm asking this in Linux Gaming, so obviously must work with Linux (though so far I've had less issues getting controllers to work on my Linux desktop than I've had with Windows).
I've had good experiences with 8bitdo. There's this one that looks more reminiscent of a SNES controller, but has the layout you're looking for.
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The new 8bitdo Pro 2 gamepads have hall effect stick, a symmetrical layout and are available in Europe. Made in China, though. I have … some of them. Love especially the translucent purple one.
Pretty decent looking gamepad. Do you have experience with the 8bitdo Pro 2? How are the ergonomics? How does it feel?
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I don't know about shipping to Europe but GameSir has the Tarantula Pro which I have, and despite being partial to the Xbox layout I've been enjoying. I know 8bitDo also has a Playstation style controller with hall effect sticks and that people who have tend to like them, but I don't have one so I can't comment on it
Oof, the Tarantula Pro is rather expensive. Though it's nice to see they have a Danish shop. I also see they have a much cheaper wired version. Looks pretty cool, but the cable doesn't look easily replaced, which is a concern.
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Is there a company outside of China making controllers with Hall effect sticks yet? I'm not aware of any, which means what you are asking for will severely limit your options.
FWIW, my six-year-old DualShock 4 has almost no stick drift; so little that I never notice it in practice and haven't bothered to calibrate it. Perhaps that's because I keep it in a drawer, where dust can't settle on it and then work its way into the potentiometers inside.
You know you can calibrate these things in Linux, right?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gamepad#Setting_up_deadzones_and_calibration
I've also traveled across Europe with it a few times. I bought my DS4 for use with my laptop (years before I built my own PC) shortly after the PS4 came out. I've had that controller for a very long time.
I considered perhaps replacing the sticks with hall effect ones myself, but I don't have a soldering kit, and I can't justify buying a whole soldering kit when I don't have place for one and intend to only use it once.
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I feel your pain. I'm a big fan of the PS controller design as well. This isn't a serious recommendation as I haven't done it yet myself, but your best bet may just be to buy a PS5 controller with some HAL effect replacement sticks.
(Just using Amazon as an example, there are probably cheaper/better European options but it looks like a 2-pack would run you about $14USD / €12)
https://www.amazon.com/PS5-Hall-Effect-Joystick-Replacement-2-Pack/dp/B0DN8T9KJWhttps://www.ifixit.com/Guide/DualSense+Joystick+Replacement/142488
Be warned as it looks like in order to do the replacement you'll need to desolder the old sticks and solder in the new ones.
This'll probably be my plan, one day, but I suck at soldering so I'm likely going to find a friend to do it for me and bribe them with some beer.
Yeah, I know that replacing the sticks on a PS controller is a soldering job, but I don't have a soldering kit.
It was actually my first idea; get a soldering kit, get some hall effect sticks, repair my DS4 controller. But I don't actually have a place to put a soldering kit, I have no skill with soldering, and I can't justify buying a soldering kit just for this one project.
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I have the Retrofighters BattlerGC Pro, this is the Playstation layout equivalent:
https://retrofighters.com/our-collection/defender-pro-wireless-gamepad/
Hall effect sticks, Bluetooth support, 2.4ghz dongle, excellent buttons. The BattlerGC Pro is the best controller I've ever owned. If this Playstation style controller is even close to as good you won't be disappointed.
Edit: they also have this mini controller, and this one is currently available, whereas that more deluxe one is a pre-order shipping in January.
Shipping in 2026... oof. ^^;
I'm not sure about the mini controller. Looks like it might get very irritating to use after a short time.
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I've also traveled across Europe with it a few times. I bought my DS4 for use with my laptop (years before I built my own PC) shortly after the PS4 came out. I've had that controller for a very long time.
I considered perhaps replacing the sticks with hall effect ones myself, but I don't have a soldering kit, and I can't justify buying a whole soldering kit when I don't have place for one and intend to only use it once.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Do you know where to get drop-in replacement Hall effect sticks for a DualShock 4 or DualSense? (Maybe they're easy to find now; I haven't looked in a while.) I have a soldering iron and would probably buy a set.
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I just learned that TMR (tunneling magnetoresistance) sticks now exist, and are easier to retrofit in Sony controllers, apparently because they use less power and therefore don't need an additional circuit board. Thanks for renewing my interest.
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The new 8bitdo Pro 2 gamepads have hall effect stick, a symmetrical layout and are available in Europe. Made in China, though. I have … some of them. Love especially the translucent purple one.
I have the predecessor the sn30pro+ and I’ll definitely replace it with the pro 2 when the time comes.
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Hal Effect sticks are a must. I'm looking for a controller because my PS4 controller has some pretty horrible stick drift. I don't want a repeat of that.
PlayStation layout is also a must. Never understood the appeal of the wonky xbox layout.
Must also ship to Europe. Preferably a company from Europe. But outside of Europe also works if shipping and customs don't add twice the controller's cost to the price.
I'm asking this in Linux Gaming, so obviously must work with Linux (though so far I've had less issues getting controllers to work on my Linux desktop than I've had with Windows).
8bitdo 2c Ultimate I got off Amazon for 30$. Its 2.4ghz and bluetooth, and its hall effect.
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Which one did you buy? I have the tarantula pro and it has the playstation layout
Tarantula Pro as well. It doesn't have PS layout, though. How did you achieve that?
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Tarantula Pro as well. It doesn't have PS layout, though. How did you achieve that?
When looking for the Tarantula Pro, this is what shows up:
https://gamesir.com/collections/all-products-1/products/gamesir-tarantula-pro
