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  • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]

    Well, the Playstation layout is severely limiting. I recently bought a GameSir Tarantula and it's really awesome, but it only has Xbox/Switch physical layout.

    It can present itself as a Playstation controller to the system, though, so it will be detected as such, but the physical buttons won't match. But if you don't need that and are more interested in games recognising you have a PS controller, it could work for you.

    I use it with my Steam Deck, so it works well for Linux.

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    I want the PS layout. I don't care how the system recognizes it so long as it just works.

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    • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

      Hal Effect sticks are a must. I'm looking for a controller because my PS4 controller has some pretty horrible stick drift. I don't want a repeat of that.

      PlayStation layout is also a must. Never understood the appeal of the wonky xbox layout.

      Must also ship to Europe. Preferably a company from Europe. But outside of Europe also works if shipping and customs don't add twice the controller's cost to the price.

      I'm asking this in Linux Gaming, so obviously must work with Linux (though so far I've had less issues getting controllers to work on my Linux desktop than I've had with Windows).

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      I still love the dualshock 3. Recently bought two more from ebay because my first one is half broken.

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      • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

        Hal Effect sticks are a must. I'm looking for a controller because my PS4 controller has some pretty horrible stick drift. I don't want a repeat of that.

        PlayStation layout is also a must. Never understood the appeal of the wonky xbox layout.

        Must also ship to Europe. Preferably a company from Europe. But outside of Europe also works if shipping and customs don't add twice the controller's cost to the price.

        I'm asking this in Linux Gaming, so obviously must work with Linux (though so far I've had less issues getting controllers to work on my Linux desktop than I've had with Windows).

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        I've had good experiences with 8bitdo. There's this one that looks more reminiscent of a SNES controller, but has the layout you're looking for.

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        • blackris@discuss.tchncs.deB [email protected]

          The new 8bitdo Pro 2 gamepads have hall effect stick, a symmetrical layout and are available in Europe. Made in China, though. I have … some of them. Love especially the translucent purple one.

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          Pretty decent looking gamepad. Do you have experience with the 8bitdo Pro 2? How are the ergonomics? How does it feel?

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          • D [email protected]

            I don't know about shipping to Europe but GameSir has the Tarantula Pro which I have, and despite being partial to the Xbox layout I've been enjoying. I know 8bitDo also has a Playstation style controller with hall effect sticks and that people who have tend to like them, but I don't have one so I can't comment on it

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            Oof, the Tarantula Pro is rather expensive. Though it's nice to see they have a Danish shop. I also see they have a much cheaper wired version. Looks pretty cool, but the cable doesn't look easily replaced, which is a concern.

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            • W [email protected]

              Is there a company outside of China making controllers with Hall effect sticks yet? I'm not aware of any, which means what you are asking for will severely limit your options.

              FWIW, my six-year-old DualShock 4 has almost no stick drift; so little that I never notice it in practice and haven't bothered to calibrate it. Perhaps that's because I keep it in a drawer, where dust can't settle on it and then work its way into the potentiometers inside.

              You know you can calibrate these things in Linux, right?

              https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gamepad#Setting_up_deadzones_and_calibration

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              I've also traveled across Europe with it a few times. I bought my DS4 for use with my laptop (years before I built my own PC) shortly after the PS4 came out. I've had that controller for a very long time.

              I considered perhaps replacing the sticks with hall effect ones myself, but I don't have a soldering kit, and I can't justify buying a whole soldering kit when I don't have place for one and intend to only use it once.

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                I feel your pain. I'm a big fan of the PS controller design as well. This isn't a serious recommendation as I haven't done it yet myself, but your best bet may just be to buy a PS5 controller with some HAL effect replacement sticks.

                (Just using Amazon as an example, there are probably cheaper/better European options but it looks like a 2-pack would run you about $14USD / €‎12)
                https://www.amazon.com/PS5-Hall-Effect-Joystick-Replacement-2-Pack/dp/B0DN8T9KJW

                https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/DualSense+Joystick+Replacement/142488

                Be warned as it looks like in order to do the replacement you'll need to desolder the old sticks and solder in the new ones.

                This'll probably be my plan, one day, but I suck at soldering so I'm likely going to find a friend to do it for me and bribe them with some beer.

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                Yeah, I know that replacing the sticks on a PS controller is a soldering job, but I don't have a soldering kit.

                It was actually my first idea; get a soldering kit, get some hall effect sticks, repair my DS4 controller. But I don't actually have a place to put a soldering kit, I have no skill with soldering, and I can't justify buying a soldering kit just for this one project.

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                • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

                  I have the Retrofighters BattlerGC Pro, this is the Playstation layout equivalent:

                  https://retrofighters.com/our-collection/defender-pro-wireless-gamepad/

                  Hall effect sticks, Bluetooth support, 2.4ghz dongle, excellent buttons. The BattlerGC Pro is the best controller I've ever owned. If this Playstation style controller is even close to as good you won't be disappointed.

                  Edit: they also have this mini controller, and this one is currently available, whereas that more deluxe one is a pre-order shipping in January.

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                  Shipping in 2026... oof. ^^;

                  I'm not sure about the mini controller. Looks like it might get very irritating to use after a short time.

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                  • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                    I've also traveled across Europe with it a few times. I bought my DS4 for use with my laptop (years before I built my own PC) shortly after the PS4 came out. I've had that controller for a very long time.

                    I considered perhaps replacing the sticks with hall effect ones myself, but I don't have a soldering kit, and I can't justify buying a whole soldering kit when I don't have place for one and intend to only use it once.

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                    Do you know where to get drop-in replacement Hall effect sticks for a DualShock 4 or DualSense? (Maybe they're easy to find now; I haven't looked in a while.) I have a soldering iron and would probably buy a set.

                    Edit:

                    I just learned that TMR (tunneling magnetoresistance) sticks now exist, and are easier to retrofit in Sony controllers, apparently because they use less power and therefore don't need an additional circuit board. Thanks for renewing my interest.

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                    • blackris@discuss.tchncs.deB [email protected]

                      The new 8bitdo Pro 2 gamepads have hall effect stick, a symmetrical layout and are available in Europe. Made in China, though. I have … some of them. Love especially the translucent purple one.

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                      I have the predecessor the sn30pro+ and I’ll definitely replace it with the pro 2 when the time comes.

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                      • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                        Hal Effect sticks are a must. I'm looking for a controller because my PS4 controller has some pretty horrible stick drift. I don't want a repeat of that.

                        PlayStation layout is also a must. Never understood the appeal of the wonky xbox layout.

                        Must also ship to Europe. Preferably a company from Europe. But outside of Europe also works if shipping and customs don't add twice the controller's cost to the price.

                        I'm asking this in Linux Gaming, so obviously must work with Linux (though so far I've had less issues getting controllers to work on my Linux desktop than I've had with Windows).

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                        8bitdo 2c Ultimate I got off Amazon for 30$. Its 2.4ghz and bluetooth, and its hall effect.

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                        • D [email protected]

                          Which one did you buy? I have the tarantula pro and it has the playstation layout

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                          Tarantula Pro as well. It doesn't have PS layout, though. How did you achieve that?

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                          • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]

                            Tarantula Pro as well. It doesn't have PS layout, though. How did you achieve that?

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                            When looking for the Tarantula Pro, this is what shows up:

                            https://gamesir.com/collections/all-products-1/products/gamesir-tarantula-pro

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                            • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                              When looking for the Tarantula Pro, this is what shows up:

                              https://gamesir.com/collections/all-products-1/products/gamesir-tarantula-pro

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                              Yes, that's the one I have, it has Xbox/Switch layout. Or are you seeing something different?

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                              • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                Pretty decent looking gamepad. Do you have experience with the 8bitdo Pro 2? How are the ergonomics? How does it feel?

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                                If you like the DS4, you will most possibly like the Pro 2. They have a nearly identical form factor. I like the feel of the Pro 2 with it's textured back more.

                                Buttons, d-pad and sticks are great, also on par with the DS4. The back buttons are nice to use, while I never triggered them accidentally. Only the Start and Select buttons are just okayish, but do the job.

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                                • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]

                                  Yes, that's the one I have, it has Xbox/Switch layout. Or are you seeing something different?

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                                  This is what I see

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                                  • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                    Hal Effect sticks are a must. I'm looking for a controller because my PS4 controller has some pretty horrible stick drift. I don't want a repeat of that.

                                    PlayStation layout is also a must. Never understood the appeal of the wonky xbox layout.

                                    Must also ship to Europe. Preferably a company from Europe. But outside of Europe also works if shipping and customs don't add twice the controller's cost to the price.

                                    I'm asking this in Linux Gaming, so obviously must work with Linux (though so far I've had less issues getting controllers to work on my Linux desktop than I've had with Windows).

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                                    If you can solder (or know somebody that can) and your PS4 controller is in good shape otherwise, there are hall effect stick replacements available for PS4 controllers.

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                                    • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]

                                      Yes, that's the one I have, it has Xbox/Switch layout. Or are you seeing something different?

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                                      I dunno what to say...

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                                      • blackris@discuss.tchncs.deB [email protected]

                                        If you like the DS4, you will most possibly like the Pro 2. They have a nearly identical form factor. I like the feel of the Pro 2 with it's textured back more.

                                        Buttons, d-pad and sticks are great, also on par with the DS4. The back buttons are nice to use, while I never triggered them accidentally. Only the Start and Select buttons are just okayish, but do the job.

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                                        Thank you! This will certainly be a strong contender. They also have very cheap shipping to Denmark, so that's a plus.

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                                        • D [email protected]

                                          If you can solder (or know somebody that can) and your PS4 controller is in good shape otherwise, there are hall effect stick replacements available for PS4 controllers.

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                                          Yep, this was my first thought. But I don't know how to solder, I don't have a soldering kit, and I don't have any place to put it. I can't justify buying a whole soldering kit if I'm using it for this project alone; it'll be more expensive than just buying a new controller where the problem wont happen anymore.

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