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    The x endings are generally regarded as white saviorism.

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    Idk i always had a hard time as hungarian, my first language, doesnt have gender. Im a very proficient english speaker, almost at a native level but i do struggle with the gender stuff sometimes. Tho in daily speech i just use they/them as a fallback so i guess that works.

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      Filipino is the gender neutral way 🙂 I'm a half filipino raised in america though so take it with a grain of salt, but I honestly have never seen anyone use filipinx before

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      Ok ill use that, its just last time i used that someone had to point out that technically the male form... i guess it still is like in spanish where multiple people with undetermined gender are adressed with the male plural right?

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        (TikTok screencap)

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        Brown guy here, I like fire too

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          I wonder if there is a genetic component to keeping fire for recreation or comfort.

          I think all societies have a cooking on fire aspect.

          The use of fire seems to play a much more active role in societies in cold climates. It seems to play a less prominent role in the tropics with warmer nighttime temperatures.

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          Survivalists like to boast of their skills to start a fire from scratch with no modern tool. But that wasn't the main skill in ancient times. Most societies found it easier to start a fire once and then keep the flame going through several mediums. It was a practical, mundane but vital activity that everyone participated in. The calories gains from eating cooked food was our cheat code for unlocking brain power.

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            Really not trying to be rude.

            I don’t have TikTok and don’t want one.
            I want to be a part of online stuff such as this story you’re telling.
            But.

            TikTok is fucking cancer on a phone/device that doesn’t have an account and doesn’t (therefore) have the app installed.

            Popups of all forms. Just like sketchy websites.
            It’s just a red flag. That’s all.

            These experiences really reinforce my decision to NOT have a TikTok.

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              There's at least one organization working to fix that lingering impact. Outdoorafro.org is all about linking Black Americans with the parks and wild places that have historically been off-limits, dangerous, or discouraged.

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              I would love to see more people of color embracing America's wilds, if we had larger communities of color in the woods it wouldn't feel so dangerous out there. Diversity leads to people not feeling like they own a thing and can make rules about who belongs there.

              I would also love to see more progressives broadly reclaim the US flag and responsible gun ownership. I feel we lost the country because we let them plaster themselves with propaganda and made it feel "gross" to support our country. We allowed the seeding of far too much "America Bad" sentiment and it led to too many young people tuning out and not caring what happens to our home.

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                Brown guy here, I like fire too

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                I went to an engineering school and I am here to tell you that pyromancy is practiced by every type of person.

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                  Ok ill use that, its just last time i used that someone had to point out that technically the male form... i guess it still is like in spanish where multiple people with undetermined gender are adressed with the male plural right?

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                  Nah, the most popular language in the Philippines is tagalog and that is already a language that's gender neutral. The word 'Filipino' is a colonial artifact---they were named after some guy named Philip. In that way, it is technically gendered considering the spanish influence, but no one I know considers it gendered in any way unless you put it like 'pinoys or pinays' etc. I know filipina or pilipina or pinay is used still, but I honestly haven't heard it much except in america, but all filipino women I know, if you just asked 'are you filipino?' they would say yes.

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                    Yeah, like why does race need to be involved here? Fire should be for everyone to enjoy.

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                    There are quite a few black comedians in the USA who explain why. Basically life as a black man in the US is hard enough and there is no need to introduce recreational "challenges" like campingto feel fulfilled.

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                      I went to an engineering school and I am here to tell you that pyromancy is practiced by every type of person.

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                      The best pyromancy comes from the United States, we have such classics as The German Barbeque, Korean Barbeque, Vietnam Barbeque, and California.

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                        Brown guy here, I like fire too

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                        Yeah, whats the deal with "white guy"? Guys like fucking with fire. Black, white, brown, blue. If theres an alien species on the other side of the galaxy, you can bet they have something very much like guys, and the love fucking with fire.

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                          I wonder if there is a genetic component to keeping fire for recreation or comfort.

                          I think all societies have a cooking on fire aspect.

                          The use of fire seems to play a much more active role in societies in cold climates. It seems to play a less prominent role in the tropics with warmer nighttime temperatures.

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                          This reminded me of something my dad told me when I was younger. It was mostly to justify saying that no, I did not need a TV in my room, but still kinda interesting:

                          In many cultures (definitely the ones my family grew out of), the fire served as a gathering spot. People would talk about stuff, share food and jokes, and relax together. It was a shared experience and source of comfort that helped strengthen interpersonal bonds.

                          His argument was that the family TV served a similar function (without the whole 'also it's the means for cooked food' aspect, which shouldn't be overlooked). It's a point that made some sense to me at that stage of late 20th century mainstream society.

                          Hmm...the 21st century, defined as billions of little fires, and many of us cold. There's a really pretentious poem here somewhere.

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                            I mean, there's no way of knowing with any certainty from this image alone whether or not the guy is tending the fire competently...

                            But it is actually not as simple as 'just throw on another log'.

                            How long do you want the fire to burn?

                            How hot do you want the fire to burn?

                            Do you have an accelerant, or no?

                            Is your timber and kindling very dry or very wet?

                            Is your timber and kindling going to need to burn through bark or not?

                            How sappy is your timber and kindling?

                            How hot or cold or windy is it, is it expected to become?

                            All these things and more can and do affect the initial layout of the campfire, how to adjust it and maintain it to keep it going at the rate and intensity you want it to, especially if the desired goal state of the fire changes, and/or environmental conditions change or are expected to change significantly.

                            ...

                            Anyway, the 'joke' could be more or less racially based.

                            I'd say yeah, you probably are more likely to find a random white guy that uh... knows all the stuff I just previously said, but thats because a random white guy (in the US, at least) is more likely to have come from a family that could afford camping trips, could send their kids to the scouts or something.

                            (This is basically the same root behind the 'black people don't know how to swim' uh, 'joke'.)

                            (Yep, turns out you're more likely to learn how to swim if your parents could afford to / were not segregated out of living in a community with access to pools or beaches)

                            Again though, there's no real way from the given context to determine... whether or not the image was made by someone aware of this, and is referencing that...

                            ... or if they're just making a very basic, pithy, uninformed, surface level observation...

                            or somewhere in between this.

                            ...

                            There could also be an element of sexism to the 'joke', if you interperet 'and I respect that' as completely sarcastic, sort of going along with your interpretation.

                            'Oh, clearly this dude doesn't know what he's doing, he's just trying to look like he knows what he's doing.'

                            ...

                            So yeah, if your 'joke' is possibly racist, possibly sexist, unclear about whether or not it actually is, and generally illicits confusion when it is described or explained as a joke...

                            Then uh, I agree with you, its not a very good joke.

                            ...

                            Also, to perhaps clarify younger / more modern slang:

                            'really fucks with', to maybe a millenial or older, would mean that you keep consistently interfering with or engaging with some person or process or activity.

                            But! To Gen Z / A, 'really fucks with' is closer to... 'spends their time' or 'engages at all' or even 'is seriously dedicated to'.

                            Like if I asked a Gen A if they knew person A, they could respond, 'No, I don't really fuck with person A'.

                            And that would basically mean that they don't know them that well, or at all.

                            Whereas if a millenial or older person said 'I don't really fuck with person A'... that would be more like a denial of bullying or harassing them.

                            The Gen Z/A usage of 'fucks with' is much more morally/intent neutral, wheras the Millenial/Older usage is more morally/intent negative.

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                            This is some damn fine analysis of a screencap of a TikTok.

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                              This is some damn fine analysis of a screencap of a TikTok.

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                              Autism + Boredom + Lemmy =

                              Inordinant level of analysis on entirely random subjects

                              EDIT

                              Oh right, social norms!

                              Skipped my mind.

                              Thank you for the compliment =D

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                                The best pyromancy comes from the United States, we have such classics as The German Barbeque, Korean Barbeque, Vietnam Barbeque, and California.

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                                Is that a jab about all the forest fires CA keeps experiencing? If so, well done. I chuckled.

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                                  Is that a jab about all the forest fires CA keeps experiencing? If so, well done. I chuckled.

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                                  I'm from the Inland Empire here in SoCal I have to make jokes or the sirens call of the inferno starts to eat away at ones mind.

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                                  • violetsoftness@piefed.blahaj.zoneV [email protected]

                                    from the name??

                                    this is going to mess with me when i make my next account 😂

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                                    My take is that 'violetsoftness' just seems like a feminine username. So if you used to identify as male but now use that username, I also guessed trans woman. The name itself doesn't necessarily make me think trans, just fem.

                                    For whatever it's worth, I think it's a great name! It gives a nice, friendly vibe, like you would be fun to hang out with.

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                                      The best pyromancy comes from the United States, we have such classics as The German Barbeque, Korean Barbeque, Vietnam Barbeque, and California.

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                                      You forgot the Midwest Bonfire with 1000 drunken teenagers and a fire big enough that the local fire chief comes to check on it.

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                                      • cracks_inthewalls@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                                        This reminded me of something my dad told me when I was younger. It was mostly to justify saying that no, I did not need a TV in my room, but still kinda interesting:

                                        In many cultures (definitely the ones my family grew out of), the fire served as a gathering spot. People would talk about stuff, share food and jokes, and relax together. It was a shared experience and source of comfort that helped strengthen interpersonal bonds.

                                        His argument was that the family TV served a similar function (without the whole 'also it's the means for cooked food' aspect, which shouldn't be overlooked). It's a point that made some sense to me at that stage of late 20th century mainstream society.

                                        Hmm...the 21st century, defined as billions of little fires, and many of us cold. There's a really pretentious poem here somewhere.

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                                        Yeah I miss the days when my entire family would gather by the TV at night to watch something, anything really, I could be laying on the sofa reading a book but still enjoy the company and finding something interesting while channel surfing was it's own joy, now I can stream or download anything I want to watch on all my devices and I can't find anything interesting that makes me feel the sense of peace I had back then as a kid

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                                          Really not trying to be rude.

                                          I don’t have TikTok and don’t want one.
                                          I want to be a part of online stuff such as this story you’re telling.
                                          But.

                                          TikTok is fucking cancer on a phone/device that doesn’t have an account and doesn’t (therefore) have the app installed.

                                          Popups of all forms. Just like sketchy websites.
                                          It’s just a red flag. That’s all.

                                          These experiences really reinforce my decision to NOT have a TikTok.

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                                          100% agree. Fucking hate tiktok. Even beyond the data they collect and shit, how skeezy they are about watching the videos makes them so shitty.

                                          That said, open it in a browser and then set to desktop site it you're on mobile. It allows it to play without the popups. Mobile browser tiktok feels like a late 90s porn site with the popups

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