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What would happen if every working class person told their co-workers how much money they make?

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  • E [email protected]

    Same thing as if all coworkers shared their genital sizes.

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    South Park already covered this...

    Everyone uses the T.M.I. formula but you tell everyone that anything about 1.5" qualifies as "nice" on the new scale.

    Boom, everyone chills the fuck out.

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    • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

      Like a national tell your coworkers your hourly/salary day.

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      $69.23/hr. Pre-tax.

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      • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

        Like a national tell your coworkers your hourly/salary day.

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        $39.65 with fringes.

        Not enough, but hey, now you know.

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        • jordanlund@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

          $69.23/hr. Pre-tax.

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          damn, nice.

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            People that get paid less will get jealous of the ones getting paid more, and start workplace drama against their fellow proletarians.

            Sorry but your daydream of an uprising aint happening, people are quick to blame someone within their reach rather than some faceless corporation.

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            Oh bullshit.

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            • D [email protected]

              People that get paid less will get jealous of the ones getting paid more, and start workplace drama against their fellow proletarians.

              Sorry but your daydream of an uprising aint happening, people are quick to blame someone within their reach rather than some faceless corporation.

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              Local, county, state government employee salaries are public, and they still seems to be running fine for hundreds of years.

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              • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                Like a national tell your coworkers your hourly/salary day.

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                In Finland everyone can go to the tax office and see the incomes of everyone (with a ~1.5 years delay, i.e. 2023 is the latest today).

                I know what my colleagues and friends make. I think the only thing it would affect is, that if I felt that I was making less than I should, I would start looking for a new job.

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                  Oh bullshit.

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                  Every industry is different. But in a warehouse that I worked at, people tattletale on each other all the fucking time, if your coworkers see you just glancing at your phone for 2 seconds to see the time, you get instantly reported to the supervisor. Like what the actual fuck.

                  Maybe your industry is different, in which case, good for you. But you don't know just how insane people are. And that was a unionized place btw, even the union reps are playing sides and favoring some workers over others. If you got on the union rep's bad side, they won't even bother to defend you against the company (like they'll half-ass any obligations they have).

                  The proletariat, at least in the US, are not united at all.

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                  • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                    Like a national tell your coworkers your hourly/salary day.

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                    I have a very strong suspicion that a large number of people would simply work "less" like "quiet quitting" (I hate that term.)

                    The majority of people I've worked with don't like asking for raises. It's not that they don't think they deserve more, they just have this aversion to going and initiating the conversation. I literally fought for a round of raises for everyone at the factory I work at to be considered because everyone I spoke to said they hadn't gotten one in ~5 years... I suspect they'll get envious of the people making more than them, but they won't have the guts to go ask for what they're worth and they'll stew in their envy just working less as retaliation.

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                    • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                      Like a national tell your coworkers your hourly/salary day.

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                      My salary is well-known. It's an equality thing to fix on a standard rate scheme. The rate is known, the stepping is known, and the steps are known. Anyone can figure it out.

                      And, if not, it's in a yearly report that needs to be released and contains all of that. I could find out how much my entire chain of command makes, at a glance, but I don't care.

                      Okay; from the daytime job, at least. The side gig is a little variable.

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                      • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                        Unless...

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                        Unless our brains stop being based on tribal monkey hardware?

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                          People that get paid less will get jealous of the ones getting paid more, and start workplace drama against their fellow proletarians.

                          Sorry but your daydream of an uprising aint happening, people are quick to blame someone within their reach rather than some faceless corporation.

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                          Wrong. I posted my entire pay history on my cube wall with yearly gain adjusted for inflation, 19 years worth of data. It was there for at least ten years and i shared the underlying data freely. No one was mad at me, but they were upset at management.

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                            I have a very strong suspicion that a large number of people would simply work "less" like "quiet quitting" (I hate that term.)

                            The majority of people I've worked with don't like asking for raises. It's not that they don't think they deserve more, they just have this aversion to going and initiating the conversation. I literally fought for a round of raises for everyone at the factory I work at to be considered because everyone I spoke to said they hadn't gotten one in ~5 years... I suspect they'll get envious of the people making more than them, but they won't have the guts to go ask for what they're worth and they'll stew in their envy just working less as retaliation.

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                            “Acting your wage”

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                              People that get paid less will get jealous of the ones getting paid more, and start workplace drama against their fellow proletarians.

                              Sorry but your daydream of an uprising aint happening, people are quick to blame someone within their reach rather than some faceless corporation.

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                              Bullshit. This is the propaganda employers use so employees don't have information to make educated decisions. There are already industries that have payroll information available to all employees, or even fully publicly available.

                              The simple fact is most people don't resent each other for being paid less, they resent the employer exploiting them, as they should.

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                              • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                Like a national tell your coworkers your hourly/salary day.

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                                #GuillotineParty

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                                • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                  Like a national tell your coworkers your hourly/salary day.

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                                  I talk very openly about my salary and my coworkers theirs. This is despite this being a bit of a taboo in Germany and a lot of employers putting a "no salary discussion" clause in their contract, but that's unlawful anyway.

                                  What happened is that I realized that I'm a fucking idiot.

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                                    People that get paid less will get jealous of the ones getting paid more, and start workplace drama against their fellow proletarians.

                                    Sorry but your daydream of an uprising aint happening, people are quick to blame someone within their reach rather than some faceless corporation.

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                                    The way to solve this is to pay people fair and equal wages. Union employees all know how much everyone makes (at least my union), and nobody is jealous and starts workplace drama. We might be pissed if someone's in a higher position than us and therefore getting paid better, but that's an issue in any workplace.

                                    If someone is getting paid more for the same work (as in, they're in a higher position so they're getting paid better), then the employee takes it up with the union who fights on their behalf to improve their salary.

                                    Payment transparency leads to employees having the ability to demand change and argue for themselves.

                                    Unions aren't a perfect system but there's a reason they work.

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                                    • jordanlund@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                                      $69.23/hr. Pre-tax.

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                                      Damn them if they don't give you a 46c raise.

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                                      • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                        Like a national tell your coworkers your hourly/salary day.

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                                        $0 per hour

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                                          The way to solve this is to pay people fair and equal wages. Union employees all know how much everyone makes (at least my union), and nobody is jealous and starts workplace drama. We might be pissed if someone's in a higher position than us and therefore getting paid better, but that's an issue in any workplace.

                                          If someone is getting paid more for the same work (as in, they're in a higher position so they're getting paid better), then the employee takes it up with the union who fights on their behalf to improve their salary.

                                          Payment transparency leads to employees having the ability to demand change and argue for themselves.

                                          Unions aren't a perfect system but there's a reason they work.

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                                          Unions aren’t a perfect system but there’s a reason they work.

                                          I think you misunderstand. Unions aren't the problem, it's the spineless useless union reps that don't adequetly protect the workers. Like he would advocate for those that he's friends with, but then they have a beef with you for some weird reason and then neglect their duties to help you with stuff. Kinda like politicians in a democracy not representing their constituents. Its not the democracy being a problem, its a people problem.

                                          Tbh, Idk why dipshits get elected as the union rep, but dumb people exist in the electorate, just as with the union members.

                                          (But I don't work there anymore so that's out of my hands, their problem to fix)

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