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    Did anyone claim that germany is palestine?

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    some people would like it to be 😉

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      Left Party MP Cansin KöktĂŒrk was thrown out of a German parliament plenary chamber on Wednesday for wearing a t-shirt with the word "Palestine" printed on it, a move deemed a political statement by the parliamentary leadership.

      Bundestag President Julia Klöckner intervened during the session, reminding MPs that political messages on clothing are not permitted in the chamber.

      While the Bundestag does not have a detailed dress code, its rules require MPs and visitors to dress "in keeping with the prestige" of the institution. Enforcement of this standard is left to the discretion of the session chair.

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      so are they saying palestines have not prestige? if you think about it, it makes sense. but correct me if im wrong.

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      • goten@piefed.socialG [email protected]

        some people would like it to be 😉

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        No. Nobody wants that, nobody is trying that. Take your fucking right wing dogwhistles and "great replacement" pipe dreams and piss off.

        For context: this user just dropped the n-bomb in another thread.

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        • goten@piefed.socialG [email protected]

          LOL. it needs it twice, so again LOL! this comment is amazing! xD

          How dare Germans wear a German Flag pin.

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          In Germany (because of ours history) only fascists (and clueless normies during sport events) think the German flag is something you'd consider associating yourself with. If you're only a tiny bit left leaning it's yucky af even thinking about e. g. wearing a t-shirt with a German flag. Ew.

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            No. Nobody wants that, nobody is trying that. Take your fucking right wing dogwhistles and "great replacement" pipe dreams and piss off.

            For context: this user just dropped the n-bomb in another thread.

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            On Welt, n-tv and Tagesschau were Videos where these People waved Palestine Flags and shouted: "Das ist unser Land."

            Im just going by what i hear...

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            • goten@piefed.socialG [email protected]

              On Welt, n-tv and Tagesschau were Videos where these People waved Palestine Flags and shouted: "Das ist unser Land."

              Im just going by what i hear...

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              Oh, and there's surely no other possibility, like, idk, them having palestinian backgrounds and meaning Palestine being their land and not Israel's? For all I know you could just make shit up.

              Im just going by what i hear...

              Giving off "jUsT aSkInG qUeStIoNs"-vibes.

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              • jlow@discuss.tchncs.deJ [email protected]

                In Germany (because of ours history) only fascists (and clueless normies during sport events) think the German flag is something you'd consider associating yourself with. If you're only a tiny bit left leaning it's yucky af even thinking about e. g. wearing a t-shirt with a German flag. Ew.

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                oh. well i dont get it. i mean yes, you never were just born into being a german so being proud makes no sense, if you think about it. But if you helped in any way making your country or region better then its "your" Flag, no? Can germans wear the Bavaria or Bremen Flag on a shirt? what is then? i sincerely dont know,

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                • jlow@discuss.tchncs.deJ [email protected]

                  In Germany (because of ours history) only fascists (and clueless normies during sport events) think the German flag is something you'd consider associating yourself with. If you're only a tiny bit left leaning it's yucky af even thinking about e. g. wearing a t-shirt with a German flag. Ew.

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                  The flag that stands for a democratic Germany is something only fascists associate with? Interesting take I've gotta say...

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                  • goten@piefed.socialG [email protected]

                    On Welt, n-tv and Tagesschau were Videos where these People waved Palestine Flags and shouted: "Das ist unser Land."

                    Im just going by what i hear...

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                    Citing Die Welt first is not really a smart move. But someone that thinks Freiwild is just a normal band is maybe not the right person to explain this to.

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                    • C [email protected]

                      Oh, and there's surely no other possibility, like, idk, them having palestinian backgrounds and meaning Palestine being their land and not Israel's? For all I know you could just make shit up.

                      Im just going by what i hear...

                      Giving off "jUsT aSkInG qUeStIoNs"-vibes.

                      goten@piefed.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      possible

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                      • riddersport@feddit.orgR [email protected]

                        Citing Die Welt first is not really a smart move. But someone that thinks Freiwild is just a normal band is maybe not the right person to explain this to.

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                        and the other 2?

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                        • jlow@discuss.tchncs.deJ [email protected]

                          In Germany (because of ours history) only fascists (and clueless normies during sport events) think the German flag is something you'd consider associating yourself with. If you're only a tiny bit left leaning it's yucky af even thinking about e. g. wearing a t-shirt with a German flag. Ew.

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                          This was the case until 2006, though. Today, is really not like that anymore.

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                          • goten@piefed.socialG [email protected]

                            oh. well i dont get it. i mean yes, you never were just born into being a german so being proud makes no sense, if you think about it. But if you helped in any way making your country or region better then its "your" Flag, no? Can germans wear the Bavaria or Bremen Flag on a shirt? what is then? i sincerely dont know,

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                            Can germans wear the Bavaria or Bremen Flag on a shirt?

                            Yes they can. In Germany you can wear any flag you want except the Nazi Flag (and related symbols from the Third Reich).

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                            • R [email protected]

                              The flag that stands for a democratic Germany is something only fascists associate with? Interesting take I've gotta say...

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                              The same people who show German flags on their clothes or social media profile pictures usually show up when there is some right wing protest, or next to some racist online comments, so it's no longer a flag but more like the maga hat. It also serves as a sign so guys with small dicks can find each other.

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                              • riddersport@feddit.orgR [email protected]

                                Citing Die Welt first is not really a smart move. But someone that thinks Freiwild is just a normal band is maybe not the right person to explain this to.

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                                Probably thinks "Schrei nach Liebe" is about other people.

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                                • goten@piefed.socialG [email protected]

                                  oh. well i dont get it. i mean yes, you never were just born into being a german so being proud makes no sense, if you think about it. But if you helped in any way making your country or region better then its "your" Flag, no? Can germans wear the Bavaria or Bremen Flag on a shirt? what is then? i sincerely dont know,

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                                  What Germans can do in general life and what they can do in parliament is very different. In general life they can wear whatever they want except for nazi symbols. It's just parliament that has the no political clothing rule.

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    This was the case until 2006, though. Today, is really not like that anymore.

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                                    Primarily because the nazis are back.

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                                      Primarily because the nazis are back.

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                                      The Neo-Nazis I know carry different flags. Not the one from the Bundesrepublik, which is too woke for them.

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                                      • N [email protected]

                                        Uh... This person's whole job is to make political statements.

                                        While the Bundestag does not have a detailed dress code, its rules require MPs and visitors to dress "in keeping with the prestige" of the institution.

                                        Whoever put this rule on the books needs to be slapped across the face.

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                                        They wanted a dresscode. They wanted to have political discourse be through, you know, discourse, instead of through other means. But they didn't want the dresscode to be so strict that they would be forced to wear the same silly robes for hundreds of years or so.

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                                        • R [email protected]

                                          AfD members of parliament are routinely wearing German flag pins, which carries a pretty obvious message coming from a far right party.

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                                          Trouble with that is that it is a German party doing German politics in Germany. There are German flags all over the Reichstag. Yes, everyone knows they do it because they are Nazis. But if push came to shove I think a court would rule in their favour that they are in line with the dresscode.

                                          Now, if they were wearing a black t-shirt with just a German flag on it I think the consequences would be the same as in this case here. But they usually know how far they can push the rules.

                                          They are experienced sea lions.

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