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Live long enough to see yourself become the villain

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  • H [email protected]

    I think he genuinely changed as well though. Sure, some of the stuff people believe was obviously wrong in hindsight, but his unhinged tweets just weren't a thing 10 years ago.

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    The way he removed the original founders of Tesla and have himself the title of founder says otherwise, he was never a nice human being.

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      The actual public meltdown started there, but before that there was already a history of sales bullshit with unachievable promises with things like the hyperloop and solar tiles, which for those who were paying attention were enough to mentally classify Musk as part of the "Fishy and possible scam artist" category.

      Musk hasn't really changed his swindling strategy much in the last couple of decades, he just started going beyond the script and sharing his actual opinions (which turned out to be "I'm a member of the Fascist elite" crap), possibly because the very cult of personality around him of all the fanboys made him think people loved him for him, rather than for the highly curate tech bro image (back when tech bros were seen as Heroes rather than Villains) he projected.

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      On point.

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        We. Always. Knew.

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        Kay but that's honestly a pretty awesome getup. It's only cringe in retrospect knowing what we know now. If I saw someone like this on the street I'd think, "slay, dude."

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          I have a not-quite-physics degree (I could not mentally bring myself to do the proper physics capstone, but I basically have a physics degree.) I have had multiple conversations with astrophysicists, astronauts, and people who know their shit.

          It has always been abundantly clear to me that he has been full of shit. I had to play coy a lot because I had some association with NASA, but the man does not know shit about rockets or physics and it’s always been abundantly clear to anyone who does.

          I doubt he could do a simple kinematics problem.

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          You could have let this be a top-level comment, but you chose to make it directly a response to mine about how I'm interested in hearing about people who didn't always know. Why did you do that.

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          • stamets@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

            Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name

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            I'm man enough to admit that I thought he was the closest thing we had to Tony Stark even though I knew at the time he wasn't really that close to Tony Stark, and now I know just how wrong I was. Damn.

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            • bearstronaut@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

              Comparing him to Tony Stark and Thanos is giving him too much credit. He's more like
              the scammer aliens from Futurama

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              If you get into the actual comic books, you'll find out that Tony Stark is regularly portrayed as a sex pest, a substance abuser, and an outspoken fascist.

              But, unlike the real Elon Musk, I don't believe he's ever been written as "full of pee". Incidentally, ketamine abuse does result in bladder ulcers that leak urine into your body until you are quite literally poisoning yourself with your own urine.

              Just something to think about.

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              • stamets@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name

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                He never was not a villain.

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                • C [email protected]

                  Thanos is not much of a tweaker though.

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                  Neither is musk. Ketamine is a depressant, not a stimulant.

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                    I'm man enough to admit that I thought he was the closest thing we had to Tony Stark even though I knew at the time he wasn't really that close to Tony Stark, and now I know just how wrong I was. Damn.

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                    Round Iron Man 2 coming out and his cameo, I kinda felt that way too. Some 2-4 years later that feeling was entirely gone.

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                    • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zoneH [email protected]

                      He never was not a villain.

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                      Maybe. But he was seen as a competent person. I remember when SpaceX started testing the "reusable" rockets that landed themselves. He was a lot more "popular" back then

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                      • stamets@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                        Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name

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                        Back then he had a PR team. He probably fired them because he started buying their lies.

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                        • stamets@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                          Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name

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                          He's not that competent, in either incarnation.

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