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    Yes, there needs to be a more leftist party in UK politics, but... for christ's sake don't make Gaza your primary messaging. There's a ton of shit going on in the UK right now and Reform are ahead in the polls. Guess what Reform are not talking about? It's Gaza, because it turns out the average twat from the run-down northern town with no job prospects and a dying welfare state doesn't actually give a shit enough to want his government's priorities to be on another nation state when HE'S getting fucked from all sides.

    Start your messaging about un-fucking the UK first, and then mention Gaza when asked. It's about being seen as "We're here for YOU" and then when asked about Gaza going "Oh yes we care about that as well, but YOU are the priority", hence the name Your Party.

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      Yes, there needs to be a more leftist party in UK politics, but... for christ's sake don't make Gaza your primary messaging. There's a ton of shit going on in the UK right now and Reform are ahead in the polls. Guess what Reform are not talking about? It's Gaza, because it turns out the average twat from the run-down northern town with no job prospects and a dying welfare state doesn't actually give a shit enough to want his government's priorities to be on another nation state when HE'S getting fucked from all sides.

      Start your messaging about un-fucking the UK first, and then mention Gaza when asked. It's about being seen as "We're here for YOU" and then when asked about Gaza going "Oh yes we care about that as well, but YOU are the priority", hence the name Your Party.

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      Hard agree. Hopefully Corbyn has learned that Mamdani style left populism works. Laser focus on bread and butter and just hold the line on foreign policy. That makes the bad faith attacks that WILL come hollow. When you are asked about "but are you antisemitic" you pivot directly to "we will fund programs to combat anti-Semitism at home" and when they say how to fund them you say you will cut immoral military subsidies to oppressive foreign regimes.

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        Yes, there needs to be a more leftist party in UK politics, but... for christ's sake don't make Gaza your primary messaging. There's a ton of shit going on in the UK right now and Reform are ahead in the polls. Guess what Reform are not talking about? It's Gaza, because it turns out the average twat from the run-down northern town with no job prospects and a dying welfare state doesn't actually give a shit enough to want his government's priorities to be on another nation state when HE'S getting fucked from all sides.

        Start your messaging about un-fucking the UK first, and then mention Gaza when asked. It's about being seen as "We're here for YOU" and then when asked about Gaza going "Oh yes we care about that as well, but YOU are the priority", hence the name Your Party.

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        On the other hand, isn't support for Israel really unpopular? Having it as one of your primary messages means that people disgruntled with the mainstream parties' stance on Palestine/Israel become interested in your new party

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          On the other hand, isn't support for Israel really unpopular? Having it as one of your primary messages means that people disgruntled with the mainstream parties' stance on Palestine/Israel become interested in your new party

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          Israel is unpopular, but Israel is not the end-all be-all of British politics.

          According to YouGov (admittedly from 2024 but the Gaza War had already kicked off by then), the top 3 issues people vote on are...

          For Labour Voters:

          • Cost of Living
          • Health
          • The Economy

          When asked what the single most important thing is, the most said Cost of Living

          For Conservative Voters:

          • Immigration
          • The Economy
          • Cost of Living

          When asked what the most important thing is, the most said Immigration

          For Reform Voters:

          • Immigration
          • Cost of Living
          • The Economy

          When asked what the most important thing is, the most said Immigration.

          For the Lib Dems:

          • Health
          • Cost of Living
          • The Economy

          When asked what the most important thing is, the most said Health.

          There's nothing on the Green Party because they're so irrelevant nobody even counts them.

          Of the entire population surveyed, the total percentage of people that considered Gaza to be their highest priority was 2%, and of those 2%, the most were in the 18-24 age bracket at 14%.

          Admittedly I may be reading that data wrong, and it is from 2024, but this is more current, and on that list, Israel vs Palestine isn't even counted because it's so low in priority. While yes, Israel is unpopular, in the grand scheme of things and the issues facing the UK right now, nobody gives a shit about Gaza.

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