Do you think its a good idea to elect the sheriff / chief of police so they could be more accountable to the people? Or do you think they should be appointed?
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Cops don't even keep the peace. What peace is there to be had if you have no money? The cops are trained to deal violence on behalf of the rich. Their training and experience is inextricably linked to the objective of preserving capitalism, and is therefore useless for whatever comes afterward.
For these reasons, we need to fully abolish the police while simultaneously establishing alternative systems outside and in opposition to the State to keep each other safe.
Never capitulate to right-wing framings.
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The government has a monopoly on force. That force should be weilded by the fairest and most impartial people possible. Police, investigation agencies, etc., should be as free from bias as possible.
Now, you have multiple ways to get to that point, and people have different opinions on the purest way to achieve this. But, electing them doesn't seem to be the way. Tyranny of the majority is too strong. And appointment by elected officials is equally problematic. So how then does a system establish that is not subject to abuse by those with power?
I would argue that the best system for appointing law enforcement seems to be via a benevolent dictator or monarch or their representatives. And it only works for their lifetime, unless the inertia of the benevolent institution can be sustained. Well, it's a crapshoot but stable at least for the lifetime of the monarch or similar.
I'd also entertain citizen lotteries for these sorts of positions. But that's a crapshoot on shorter timeframes.
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Where I am, the sheriffs are elected and the police chiefs are (generally) appointed. Honestly, both get up to the same level of mischief. The problem isn't how they get to the position, but rather accountability. There isn't much. It's a mismatch between the amount of power they hold and the responsibility to which they are held.
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Elected sheriffs are the .most corrupt people you'll ever meet. Total shit show.
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They should be subject to a citizens police review board.
Like that's ever going to happen.
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We already elect ours, and it is a clusterfuck. Elections need to have public interest or they just become a contest to see who can whip the most weirdos into the booth.
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I want qualified people, not popular people.
See coroner's vs. medical examiners. One is a fucked up way of doing things.
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Cops don't even keep the peace. What peace is there to be had if you have no money? The cops are trained to deal violence on behalf of the rich. Their training and experience is inextricably linked to the objective of preserving capitalism, and is therefore useless for whatever comes afterward.
For these reasons, we need to fully abolish the police while simultaneously establishing alternative systems outside and in opposition to the State to keep each other safe.
Never capitulate to right-wing framings.
I don't think defunding the police is a right-wing framing
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I don't think defunding the police is a right-wing framing
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I argue that it is, in fact, a right-wing framing
. It's a liberal framing, and liberals are right-wing."Defunding the police" is a liberal distortion of "abolishing the police". Defunding the police uncritically reinforces the notion that police are a necessary part of a free society, but only need to be "debloated". The militarization of police is not a bug; it's a feature! It's the police evolving into exactly what they are meant to be.
And the defunding the police issue perfectly reveals why liberals are right-wing: because liberals do not object to capitalism. The primary purpose of police is to deploy violence against the subjects in order to maintain capitalism—an oppression liberals have no problem with. Sure they are the left-wing of capital in the United States, but that still makes them right-wing in the large because they advocate for the unjustifiable hierarchy of capitalism and the existence of police to enforce that power.
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Those who uphold the law should not be elected. Because the executive branch should be completely separate from the legislative branch.
