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Steam Beta finally enables Proton on Linux fully, making Linux gaming simpler

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  • S [email protected]

    i feel like desktop nvidia cards are ok, laptop nvidia cards are a nightmare because of the weird igpu/dgpu shit under the hood

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    #45

    That's why I chose a laptop without iGPU, because only one GPU means less hassle.

    Guess what: the Nvidia drivers aren't setup for laptop dGPUs without iGPU. It's horrible, even worse than my last laptop with two GPUs.

    And the battery life is ridiculous.

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      I've had good experiences with my Nvidia card on Aurora (same basis as e.g. Bazzite), but HDR is indeed still an issue.

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      I haven't had any issues with my 3070, and HDR works fine on kde-arch

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      • P [email protected]

        From a gaming perspective: Get a new drive (NVMe/whatever your OS is on), drop Nobara on it, be done, have the option to switch back without a hassle if you need it for some special tasks or games.

        And after 6 months find out that you never actually did that so delete windows/migrate it into a VM and enjoy the extra game drive you won.

        That's at least what worked for 90% of my friends meanwhile.

        The only person I know who routinely uses windows is myself- and I only do so,because I need certain MS Office stuff that I need for work. (And no,libre or Softmaker,etc. are sadly not a replacement for that. )

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        #47

        Wine was originally made specifically for running MS Office on Linux. Does that not work for you either?

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        • nfreak@lemmy.mlN [email protected]

          The only game I actively played that didn't work on Linux was destiny 2, and switching to cachyOS has really helped me kick that toxic game out for good.

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          For some reason it seems to me like toxic games are less likely to run on Linux compared to the average

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          • A [email protected]

            A lot of games that that don’t work on steamdeck because they need more performance still work perfectly well with proton on a decent gaming rig

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            Yeah, when I made the switch, I checked a bunch of the games I played the most for steam deck compatibility and thought I had to give up on some of them, only to find that they were still fine because my desktop is much more powerful than the steam deck. Plus it has a keyboard; if a game requires a keyboard, it hurts the steam deck compatability score (how much depends on if it's required for playing the game at all or just needed every now and then to enter some text).

            So treat "steam deck supported" as "works on linux" and "steam deck unsupported" as "maybe works on linux".

            I think the better indicator of not supported at all on Linux is the "3rd party kernel anticheat" marker in the store, though I tend to avoid games with that anyways, so I can't really say for sure.

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            • mintiefresh@piefed.caM [email protected]

              I didn't even know this setting existed lol. I always right clicked into the specific game's properties and selected the version of proton for that game.

              And I did it for each game.

              This is a welcome change haha. At least I know there was actually a setting for the rest of the library.

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              Is there a good resource that lists all games known to require a specific version rather than being fine with the latest? I don't really have the patience to check each game these days, so a list to skim would be nice.

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              • L [email protected]

                The whole reason I have a computer is to game on it though! 😛

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                #51

                I easily game +6 hours a day on Linux though. PoE 1-2, D2, modded d2, Cyberpunk, witcher3, ffxiv, Monster hunter world-ride-wilds, HotS (year the blizzard client works and with it all blizzard games without anticheat)... To name a few.

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                • meekah@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                  Wine was originally made specifically for running MS Office on Linux. Does that not work for you either?

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                  No,sadly not, but I have a very special use case - user Information based access to files of external customers. They basically require a shitload of Azure,etc.
                  Already takes a lot of work on Win, it is simply impossible with Wine.
                  But again: A very special use case that even most Enterprise users won't need.

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                    The whole reason I have a computer is to game on it though! 😛

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                    #53

                    Outside of a handful of multiplayer games pretty much any game will work under proton, new or old. Stalker 2 worked out the box on release day, early awkward 3D games like Gothic runs just fine, and your early point and click games will likely run just fine. Out of my 460 games*, only EA WRC doesn't work because they introduced kernel level anti cheat after release.

                    *Edit: Just to clarify i haven't tested all my games, but I have played a good number of them. Also another game that doesn't run is Ground Control 2, but that doesn't work on Windows since about 7 or 10, so it doesn't count! ^^

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                      No,sadly not, but I have a very special use case - user Information based access to files of external customers. They basically require a shitload of Azure,etc.
                      Already takes a lot of work on Win, it is simply impossible with Wine.
                      But again: A very special use case that even most Enterprise users won't need.

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                      I see, fair enough then.

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                        Yeah, when I made the switch, I checked a bunch of the games I played the most for steam deck compatibility and thought I had to give up on some of them, only to find that they were still fine because my desktop is much more powerful than the steam deck. Plus it has a keyboard; if a game requires a keyboard, it hurts the steam deck compatability score (how much depends on if it's required for playing the game at all or just needed every now and then to enter some text).

                        So treat "steam deck supported" as "works on linux" and "steam deck unsupported" as "maybe works on linux".

                        I think the better indicator of not supported at all on Linux is the "3rd party kernel anticheat" marker in the store, though I tend to avoid games with that anyways, so I can't really say for sure.

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                        I usually just check protondb. It‘ll tell you everything you need to know

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                        • B [email protected]

                          So if I turn on the global setting, does it mean it will run native linux games with proton as well? I'm mostly playing rimworld and project zomboid, which have native Linux builds.

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                          Proton is only for running Win32 binaries

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                          • P [email protected]

                            From a gaming perspective: Get a new drive (NVMe/whatever your OS is on), drop Nobara on it, be done, have the option to switch back without a hassle if you need it for some special tasks or games.

                            And after 6 months find out that you never actually did that so delete windows/migrate it into a VM and enjoy the extra game drive you won.

                            That's at least what worked for 90% of my friends meanwhile.

                            The only person I know who routinely uses windows is myself- and I only do so,because I need certain MS Office stuff that I need for work. (And no,libre or Softmaker,etc. are sadly not a replacement for that. )

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                            And after 6 months find out that you never actually did that so delete windows/migrate it into a VM and enjoy the extra game drive you won.

                            This is where I am at. As of last week I banned Windows to the deeps of a vm and went all in on Linux (Mint, in this case). Dual bootet for a couple of months but since I never used Windows outside of a vm anyway...

                            Havnt had a single issue with games so far, besides some very minor hick ups that were resolved easily. Than again, im lucky that the game so play have been supported so far.

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                            • meekah@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                              I see, fair enough then.

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                              Yeah. This and CAD software sadly are the last things windows is really needed for me,sadly.

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                              • R [email protected]

                                Integrating ProtonDB into the steam client would be a nice.

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                                I tend to do my Steam shopping in the browser and I use the ProtonDB-Peek userscript. This gives a ProtonDB status badge in the right column under the review links.

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                                  From a gaming perspective: Get a new drive (NVMe/whatever your OS is on), drop Nobara on it, be done, have the option to switch back without a hassle if you need it for some special tasks or games.

                                  And after 6 months find out that you never actually did that so delete windows/migrate it into a VM and enjoy the extra game drive you won.

                                  That's at least what worked for 90% of my friends meanwhile.

                                  The only person I know who routinely uses windows is myself- and I only do so,because I need certain MS Office stuff that I need for work. (And no,libre or Softmaker,etc. are sadly not a replacement for that. )

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                                  After my experience with nobara blowing up after a major update I'd probably go for bazzite instead

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                                  • R [email protected]

                                    Integrating ProtonDB into the steam client would be a nice.

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                                    On steam deck there's a decky add-on to do that

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                                    • N [email protected]

                                      Proton is only for running Win32 binaries

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                                      I know, I was asking about which version will Steam decide for when I have the global setting on.

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                                      • L [email protected]

                                        Probably so, there are a few native Linux builds on Steam that don't have feature parity or segregate multiplayer for silly reasons. (Total War: Warhammer III for example uses an entirely different method to generate random numbers in the native Linux build so you need to use proton to play with 'friends' on Windows)

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                                        It doesn't, as far as I could tell. I enabled the global option, and now I can just install and run windows only games without having to manually force the compatibility layer. Meanwhile, the Linux native games work just as intended.

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                                        • baleine@jlai.luB [email protected]

                                          No. To use the Windows build you need to specifically request it in the game's properties

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                                          Yup, just tested it with rimworld. Thanks!

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