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Steam Beta finally enables Proton on Linux fully, making Linux gaming simpler

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    Outside of a handful of multiplayer games pretty much any game will work under proton, new or old. Stalker 2 worked out the box on release day, early awkward 3D games like Gothic runs just fine, and your early point and click games will likely run just fine. Out of my 460 games*, only EA WRC doesn't work because they introduced kernel level anti cheat after release.

    *Edit: Just to clarify i haven't tested all my games, but I have played a good number of them. Also another game that doesn't run is Ground Control 2, but that doesn't work on Windows since about 7 or 10, so it doesn't count! ^^

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    This isn't really true. At least on the steam deck. Of the 156 games I have in my library, 52 of the are "great on deck". Id say twenty of the other ones work great anyways.

    I don't play multiplayer games, but the one I do have are in the works great category. The vast majority are single player games. (Just checked, i have 15 games that not compatible at all)

    Definitely double check your games before making the switch.

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      This isn't really true. At least on the steam deck. Of the 156 games I have in my library, 52 of the are "great on deck". Id say twenty of the other ones work great anyways.

      I don't play multiplayer games, but the one I do have are in the works great category. The vast majority are single player games. (Just checked, i have 15 games that not compatible at all)

      Definitely double check your games before making the switch.

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      A lot of the "unsupported" or "unknown" games also work fine. Some may require switching to a specific Proton version (check protondb.com), but many work fine.

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        i mostly quit videogames in order to do this. it's nice to think that maybe I'll get some more of them back

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        I was ready to do that back when I switched, but still found games to play. Back then, Steam hadn't yet come to Linux (I didn't even have an account), so it was mostly random indies (back when Humble Bundle was baller) and some FOSS games. I played a bunch of Minecraft and Factorio as well. Then Steam came and brought a few more games, then Proton came and I've been back buying a ton of games.

        Switching to Linux is so much easier these days with the incredible game support.

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        • anunusualrelic@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

          We need decky for desktop steam.

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          Can you not install it? There's really not much difference between a Steam Deck and a Linux desktop.

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          • anunusualrelic@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

            Apparently, this is a browser extension (well, a script for a browser extension), so it works when you browse the Steam catalog through your web browser, but not through their client. Or did I miss anything?

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            #74

            That's exactly what they said:

            I tend to do my Steam shopping in the browser

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            • anunusualrelic@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

              Apparently, this is a browser extension (well, a script for a browser extension), so it works when you browse the Steam catalog through your web browser, but not through their client. Or did I miss anything?

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              #75

              Correct, that's what I meant to imply in the first part of my comment. When I research new games I do that from a web browser and that's when I care about Proton status the most so this works great for that. It does not help when using the Steam client.

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                That's exactly what they said:

                I tend to do my Steam shopping in the browser

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                Right, so they did. Silly me. Thanks.

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                  Correct, that's what I meant to imply in the first part of my comment. When I research new games I do that from a web browser and that's when I care about Proton status the most so this works great for that. It does not help when using the Steam client.

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                  Thanks. You even did specify you used it from a browser, I wasn't paying attention, sorry.

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                    Can you not install it? There's really not much difference between a Steam Deck and a Linux desktop.

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                    In practice, there aren't really any differences. However I suspect that it's designed around the Deck interface and that there would be no easy way to invoke it.
                    Although it's probably open source, or you might be able to bind whatever the Deck button sends to some key combination... I guess I'll have to look into it.

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                      Probably so, there are a few native Linux builds on Steam that don't have feature parity or segregate multiplayer for silly reasons. (Total War: Warhammer III for example uses an entirely different method to generate random numbers in the native Linux build so you need to use proton to play with 'friends' on Windows)

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                      Why are people downvoting? You gave an edge case and an example of it in action... what is there to disagree with?

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                      • supervisor194@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                        Ah, Good Guy Valve helping us prepare for October eh?

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                        I guess I'm out of the loop - what's in October?

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                        • meekah@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                          For some reason it seems to me like toxic games are less likely to run on Linux compared to the average

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                          It comes down to how much the publishers care about their own product. Devs shoveling third party kernel anti-cheat into their product often cause those games to be Linux incompatible. Devs bundling their own unnecessary launcher with the game and requiring it to run the launcher in order to run the game sometimes cause those games to be Linux incompatible. It often isn't even the devs themselves making this decision, which is why I blame the publisher more than the developers in most cases.

                          But with how robust Proton has become these days there isn't a whole lot outside of those two cases that will make a game not run on Linux. It's pretty intentional at this point.

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                            I guess I'm out of the loop - what's in October?

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                            Windows 10 is no longer getting updates. Forcing users to switch to 11 or run on an unsecured platform which could be vulnerable to future security flaws.

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                              Proton is only for running Win32 binaries

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                              Nope, win64 works as well

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                                I'm a few months into Linux Mint on my gaming PC and love it; 99% of my games work. The only one that doesn't so far is FiveM but that's because the devs appear to be very anti-linux unless you're hosting a server.

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                                Is there a way to confirm which games in your library will work well on Linux for your specific hardware, gaming is the only thing keeping me on Windows for now, I'd be happy to get rid of windows if I could run most of my games on Linux and the rest maybe I can run on Wine or a virtual desktop

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                                  This isn't really true. At least on the steam deck. Of the 156 games I have in my library, 52 of the are "great on deck". Id say twenty of the other ones work great anyways.

                                  I don't play multiplayer games, but the one I do have are in the works great category. The vast majority are single player games. (Just checked, i have 15 games that not compatible at all)

                                  Definitely double check your games before making the switch.

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                                  "great on deck" is a lot more than Linux support. It also means the text is readable on a small screen and the game has 100% controller support.

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                                    Is there a way to confirm which games in your library will work well on Linux for your specific hardware, gaming is the only thing keeping me on Windows for now, I'd be happy to get rid of windows if I could run most of my games on Linux and the rest maybe I can run on Wine or a virtual desktop

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                                    Not for specific hardware but you can sign in to ProtonDB with your steam account and get an overview of your entire steam library. For online games there is areweanticheatyet.com, you will have to check games manually.
                                    AMD, Nvidia (9xx and newer) and Intel iGPUs (Skylake and newer) have roughly the same compatibility, performance differs usually favoring Windows on Nvidia.

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                                      Wait. It wasn't fully supported until now? I never had any real problems that couldn't be solved by trying a different Proton version.

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                                        Yes, exactly. I wonder how many new, non-technical users tried Proton for the first time with the setting off and decided it was crap because nothing worked. I’m glad Valve decided to do this now.

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                                        I have seen the other way around, a friend had Steam installed on their Linux PC but Proton was off and she didn't know what it was.

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                                          Windows 10 is no longer getting updates. Forcing users to switch to 11 or run on an unsecured platform which could be vulnerable to future security flaws.

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                                          Oh DUH. I'm over here wondering if I missed some Valve release announcement lmao. I switched to Linux a few months back and just completely forgot about that ig.

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