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Mastodon is working to add the controversial 'quote posts' feature | TechCrunch

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  • chozo@fedia.ioC [email protected]

    That's true, but I don't think we'll see that sort of rapid growth on Mastodon. At least not for a while. For now, Bluesky is sucking up most of the users seeking Twitter alternatives. I imagine that the growth will be slow enough that it'll be easy enough for mod teams to scale up to.

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    Also mastodon instances not named mastodon.social are still relatively small.

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      Aren't Mastodon instances maintained by volunteers in their spare time? I can't imagine how they manage to continue moderating it once there are ten thousand or millions of users on it. At least the moderators on Twitter were paid. It was their job. I think people massively underestimate how much work this is.

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      Most instances will stop allowing new accounts to be created when it reaches a certain size that gets difficult to manage (hardware and moderating-wise). They self-regulate that way, and instances that get out of control will just be defederated by the others.

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      • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

        I'm glad they're adding it; I also hope that they take Bsky's ability to detach yourself from the quoted post too.

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        They will have that it’s in the article

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        • throws_lemy@lemmy.nzT [email protected]
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          Good feature, I don't see any problems.

          1. Quotes are controversial because Twitter people used it to foster toxicity. However, on Mastodon, we have actually active mods.

          2. Also, it seems very well implemented, much better than on Twitter: Mastodon says it will allow users to control whether their posts can be quoted. Also, users will be notified if someone quotes them, and they’ll be able to withdraw their post from the quoted context at any time.

          3. Most importantly, Mastodon has an active developer who responds to feedback, and PULL REQUESTS, ISSUE TRACKERS, AND GITHUB DISCUSSIONS exist!

          4. If you still completely disagree with this decision, fork the project, create a patch, and start your own server with the patched Mastodon!

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            Bluesky has a feature where you can stop someone from quoting your post if you don’t like what they are saying.

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            • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

              (This is an example.)

              Get a load of this idiot! They can't imagine how quoting someone can be bullying!

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              Omg howd you do that without a quote feature remove images from mastodon

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                90% of interesting tweets are quote tweets they lead to the twitter version of chainthreads

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                  Good feature, I don't see any problems.

                  1. Quotes are controversial because Twitter people used it to foster toxicity. However, on Mastodon, we have actually active mods.

                  2. Also, it seems very well implemented, much better than on Twitter: Mastodon says it will allow users to control whether their posts can be quoted. Also, users will be notified if someone quotes them, and they’ll be able to withdraw their post from the quoted context at any time.

                  3. Most importantly, Mastodon has an active developer who responds to feedback, and PULL REQUESTS, ISSUE TRACKERS, AND GITHUB DISCUSSIONS exist!

                  4. If you still completely disagree with this decision, fork the project, create a patch, and start your own server with the patched Mastodon!

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                  I'm curious about how they handle retracting the quote in an open source federated model where the behaviour of other osntances can'tbe ensured. Does the instance hosting the quote simply refuse to honour the quote link?

                  And I suppose if an instance uses a hostile workaround like simply embedding a copy, that would be seen as a bad mark against the instance which could lead to defederation?

                  I'm not saying it's impossible, just interested in the specifics.

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                    As much as I love the Fediverse, it's amazing that Mastodon users see this feature as a threat. By the way, any decent app implemented quoting years ago.

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                      Can someone please tell me what a quote post is? Maybe I'm blind but I don't see an explanation for what it actually is anywhere.

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                      • sortekanin@feddit.dkS [email protected]

                        Can someone please tell me what a quote post is? Maybe I'm blind but I don't see an explanation for what it actually is anywhere.

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                        It's like a repost, but it lets you add your own post to it and shows the original post as a quote bubble.

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                          It's like a repost, but it lets you add your own post to it and shows the original post as a quote bubble.

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                          Is it just that it links back to the original or what? I mean how is it different from just quoting the post like this:

                          It’s like a repost, but it lets you add your own post to it and shows the original post as a quote bubble.

                          And then saying something about it?

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                            It's like a repost, but it lets you add your own post to it and shows the original post as a quote bubble.

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                            It's like a repost, but it lets you add your own post to it and shows the original post as a quote bubble.

                            So like this?


                            Or like this?

                            It's like a repost, but it lets you add your own post to it and shows the original post as a quote bubble.

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                            • sortekanin@feddit.dkS [email protected]

                              Is it just that it links back to the original or what? I mean how is it different from just quoting the post like this:

                              It’s like a repost, but it lets you add your own post to it and shows the original post as a quote bubble.

                              And then saying something about it?

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                              The bubble would be the actual post itself, you know? Like having the full post within another post. Similar to what you just showed but clicking the bubble brings to to the original post.

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                                The bubble would be the actual post itself, you know? Like having the full post within another post. Similar to what you just showed but clicking the bubble brings to to the original post.

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                                Right. I guess I just don't understand the use case since I'm used to comment trees (like here on Lemmy) and you're never confused about what someone is replying to since the comment being replied to is always just right above.

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                                  Right. I guess I just don't understand the use case since I'm used to comment trees (like here on Lemmy) and you're never confused about what someone is replying to since the comment being replied to is always just right above.

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                                  It's used in the context of a micro-blogging platform where your feed consists of individual posts that don't show the whole comment thread. If I replied to a post on mastodon, my followers only see my post on their timeline unless they click on my post to see it's context. A quote post can be used to present someone else's post to your followers, with whatever you want to say about it.

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                                  • sortekanin@feddit.dkS [email protected]

                                    Can someone please tell me what a quote post is? Maybe I'm blind but I don't see an explanation for what it actually is anywhere.

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                                    It's a good way to be pedantic on social media.

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                                      Bluesky has a feature where you can stop someone from quoting your post if you don’t like what they are saying.

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                                      Yeah, but how effective is it really?

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                                      • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

                                        (This is an example.)

                                        Get a load of this idiot! They can't imagine how quoting someone can be bullying!

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                                        The quote isnt bullying at all. Its your own post using words like idiot ect. Thats bullying.

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                                          The quote isnt bullying at all. Its your own post using words like idiot ect. Thats bullying.

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                                          You have to think of it from a micro blogging perspective. Imagine I have a ton of followers and have created a culture of them attacking anyone I attack. It makes more sense how it is bullying in that context.

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