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  • appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

    What defines someone as masculine in the US is not 1:1 with the concept of masculinity in China, or France, or Kenya, for instance. On top of that, one's personal understanding of masculinity and femininity likely differs slightly (or greatly) from the general standards of the society around them.

    For that I'd say this applies to the country in question
    Just not across borders.

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    That's still assuming gender norms are consistent even within a given country, though. E.g. masculinity among Asian Americans is often seen as "lesser than" compared to white Americans by virtue of racial physiology alone. The concept of having a full beard is masculine, but if you're unable to grow a full beard, does that make your gender presentation inherently less masculine than someone who can?

    Everything is subjective, with "norms" only illustrating a loose general trend that is very inconsistent and changes over time, to the point that I think it's a useless comparison. If a man chooses to dress and act femme but insists they're a man and are happy having a penis, just trust them. No need to try to arbitrarily place them on a gradient of "partially trans in denial" if that's not how they identify.

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      an example of a communist government of a major country that hasn’t devolved quickly into a dictatorship

      I'm not feeling rage or hysteria, but I find a number of issues with this "test" that could easily cause frustration with anyone who has major criticisms of capitalism. My response is long not because of some irrational anger, but because things are complex and nuanced.

      You consider yourself to be "fairly progressive"? I'm going to give you an analogy. It's not great, but it hits on a few major issues relevant to your "test". Imagine a MAGA fan asked you in 2026 to "name a thriving woke government agency" or "a government agency that still advocates for DEI" to make a point about your ideals. How does that sound to you?

      First, you'd like argue that the term "woke" and "DEI" means different things to different people. That the term has been transformed into some deranged negatively charged approximation used as almost a slur colloquially. The same is true for "communist/ism" and "socialist/ism". The current US "powers that be" have taken ownership of terms originally used by progressives. Woke was an "eyes open" state of awareness of the systemic racism baked into society. Now it is often considered "naively believing that forced equality makes things better". DEI was an attempt to correct these systemic issues by encouraging or even enforcing diversity in groups of people who make decisions and influence decisions. Now it, and I'd argue "Affirmative Action" as well, is starting to mean a movement to "give power/opportunity to people because they are minorities whether or not they are sufficiently qualified". Understand, I'm not in agreement with the transformation of these terms or the sentiment of the new "meanings" but I see them being used in the US in this manner more often. This makes every conversation confusing if you want to have a legitimate discussion of the ideas. It doesn't help that the terms socialism and communism were never concrete terms to begin with.

      Second, you'd be aware that there is literally a powerful force actively attempting to purge the original concepts of "woke" and "DEI" from government agencies. The current administration is working very hard to sabotage any agencies that recognize inequality or try to diversify. The administration has likely broken the law in its efforts to oust any agency leadership who promote these concepts. The administration wants to make the lives of any workers who agree with those concepts very difficult. Any agencies that are based on those core concepts are being spun down or turned into shells that somehow still have a name that implies they haven't changed but in reality their leadership is working to ensure that the agency now serves the opposite function.

      That's what it is like being openly socialist or communist in today's world. Everything bad is "socialist" or "communist" - it has been since the revolution in Russia. People have a knee jerk reaction on hearing those words. It's strongly associated with North Korea, Stalin, and the CCP. Endless stories of violent authoritarianism, surveillance states, and the suppression of free speech. Tons of media - Animal Farm, 1984. As an aside, consider the violent suppression of climate or pro Palestine protesters, or the use of surveillance technology to spy on citizens... in capitalist nations.

      Back to my point - if you are advocating for socialism, the West will work diligently to prop up existing capitalist leadership to prevent your success, possibly even help them rig elections. Propaganda will be spread among your population. If you manage to get elected, expect to be labeled extremist or even terrorist. Expect embargos, sanctions, and other economic warfare. Expect actual terrorists funded by the West to attempt to sabotage your nation. Expect or attempt to perform coups. Lobbyists would be throwing money you desperately need at your nation if it would just capitulate. Yes, even citizens might work against you because they are quite wealthy and powerful and your going to upset that. Or maybe honest citizens who've heard capitalism is great and socialism is bad and they don't want to live in a bad nation. What's the most effect method to survive a situation like that? You are under siege, paranoid, distrustful, woefully outmatched. Use your authority to defend your ideals and your hold on the government, sell out and become corrupt, or get squeezed out by a political opponent (or ally, trust noone) that is working for and funded by the West looking to restore their influence over your nation. Now you have a dictatorship.

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      You made a lot of assumptions about me in your comment. I’m not going to bother with them, because that’s honestly your job to handle.

      I don’t equate communism with (democratic) socialism. I consider myself a democratic socialist, and that’s part of the reason I consider myself progressive. The main difference is that democratic socialism makes room for multiple political parties, while communism accommodates only one. This is the essence of tyranny. No progressive should advocate for communism, because communism is another form of authoritarianism: subjugation to state rule.

      I have my problems with “woke” culture, just as I do with conservative culture. But most of my problems with woke culture have to do with their rhetoric and means of achieving their goals, rather than the goals themselves. A racially mixed workplace is something I highly value; achieving it by means of affirmative action is not something I support, because I think 50+ years of it have shown that it doesn’t really work. Yes, it has been shown to improve interracial relations in the workplace, but it has also been shown to cause workers to question the competency of coworkers that benefit from it, and make those who don’t feel discriminated against. This is not what it was intended for. It was supposed to counter inherent racist biases in corporate hiring systems. Instead, it’s become a system that is the very least viewed as a loophole for non-white employees. Obviously, not every case is an example of a non-white employee gaining an unfair advantage over a white employee, probably only a small fraction qualify as such, but as a system it has created the perception that Whites are being discriminated against. And its proponents have done virtually nothing to address that. That needs to change. I’m not saying the spirit of affirmative action needs to end, but its implementation need to change.

      If and when you respond, I would encourage you to not make assumptions about my stance. I don’t fit into the political boxes neatly.

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        World == USA

        Incredible US bias here to the point where many discussions completely ignore the existence of the rest of the world.

        Lemmy is actually worse than reddit here. The only network that at least tries to be cosmopolitan is Mastodon and that's why it just feels so much healthier there.

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        #157

        Yeah. I've had several discussions talking about what happens in other countries and someone starts complaining about how it is typical American behavior.

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          What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?

          (Excluding US politics, due to community rules)

          Commonly mentioned biases:

          Subject Mentions
          Pro-Privacy 2
          Left-Wing 9
          Anti-Capitalism 5
          American 5
          Older 2
          Pro-Linux 3
          Tech people 5
          Anti-Ai 4
          Pro-LBTQ+ 3
          Anti religion 3
          Pro-Communism 3

          Bonus: Gaming Biases

          Subject Mentions
          Nintendo hate 3
          Pro-SteamDeck 1
          Anti-GOG 1
          PC over console 1
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          #158

          Two things that I haven't seen yet.

          • Much higher general tech and math/stats literacy than other spaces on the internet

          • An overwhelming hatred for Nintendo when most of the rest of the internet swallows their boot in order to play their new games because let's face it, they make some of the most well-polished 3D platformers.

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            World == USA

            Incredible US bias here to the point where many discussions completely ignore the existence of the rest of the world.

            Lemmy is actually worse than reddit here. The only network that at least tries to be cosmopolitan is Mastodon and that's why it just feels so much healthier there.

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            #159

            mastodon is the least usable fediverse app, idk how yall get an interesting feed on there, still no quote posts is wild

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              You should get the socks and try again.

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              Eh, I'm not that interested in Arch. I have Pop!_OS, and it just works (unlike Manjaro, that broke at least once every six months). I was installing it on an older laptop, just for the sake of it (not sure if I would've used it later on)

              Also, I'm sure it'd be hella sus to get striped thigh-high socks. Especially with such warm days (we have coloured heat warnings 'round these parks!) Installing Arch I can explain, and no one would care. Just tech nerd mumbo jumbo, who gives a shit. Why I need long, colourful socks?! …

              Other than that, yeah, I'd do it. Fun socks and computers? Fuck yeah! I mean, not with this heat. But come colder days? Fuck yeah!

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                What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?

                (Excluding US politics, due to community rules)

                Commonly mentioned biases:

                Subject Mentions
                Pro-Privacy 2
                Left-Wing 9
                Anti-Capitalism 5
                American 5
                Older 2
                Pro-Linux 3
                Tech people 5
                Anti-Ai 4
                Pro-LBTQ+ 3
                Anti religion 3
                Pro-Communism 3

                Bonus: Gaming Biases

                Subject Mentions
                Nintendo hate 3
                Pro-SteamDeck 1
                Anti-GOG 1
                PC over console 1
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                For as politically Left as Lemmy tends to run there still seems to be a high level of mysoginy.

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                  This isn't even taking into consideration eating red meat which has a far great impact than any AI query ever will, but most anti-AI peeps aren't ready for that conversation.

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                  If I stop eating beef am I morally allowed to use AI? /s

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                    For as politically Left as Lemmy tends to run there still seems to be a high level of mysoginy.

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                    #163

                    Yes, but there mainly seems to be a large gender discrepancy.

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                      What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?

                      (Excluding US politics, due to community rules)

                      Commonly mentioned biases:

                      Subject Mentions
                      Pro-Privacy 2
                      Left-Wing 9
                      Anti-Capitalism 5
                      American 5
                      Older 2
                      Pro-Linux 3
                      Tech people 5
                      Anti-Ai 4
                      Pro-LBTQ+ 3
                      Anti religion 3
                      Pro-Communism 3

                      Bonus: Gaming Biases

                      Subject Mentions
                      Nintendo hate 3
                      Pro-SteamDeck 1
                      Anti-GOG 1
                      PC over console 1
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                      #164

                      Already mentioned was the pro Linux and everything else sucks. Also, the Nintendo hate.

                      What I haven't seen is the high acceptance/love of furry content. I didn't know people could draw animals that hot. Not that it awakened anything in me.

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                        All capitalism is bad, and any attempt to rein it in is failure before any attempts.

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                        #165

                        Don’t pay attention to the trolls from .ml and hexbear.

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                          What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?

                          (Excluding US politics, due to community rules)

                          Commonly mentioned biases:

                          Subject Mentions
                          Pro-Privacy 2
                          Left-Wing 9
                          Anti-Capitalism 5
                          American 5
                          Older 2
                          Pro-Linux 3
                          Tech people 5
                          Anti-Ai 4
                          Pro-LBTQ+ 3
                          Anti religion 3
                          Pro-Communism 3

                          Bonus: Gaming Biases

                          Subject Mentions
                          Nintendo hate 3
                          Pro-SteamDeck 1
                          Anti-GOG 1
                          PC over console 1
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                          #166

                          Most folks here seem to lean to a moderate left also, Conservatives are apparently grouped in with Republicans an MAGA.

                          While it’s nice to see the community grow there really isn’t any diversity, for lack of a better word, in the political discussions made here.

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                            What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?

                            (Excluding US politics, due to community rules)

                            Commonly mentioned biases:

                            Subject Mentions
                            Pro-Privacy 2
                            Left-Wing 9
                            Anti-Capitalism 5
                            American 5
                            Older 2
                            Pro-Linux 3
                            Tech people 5
                            Anti-Ai 4
                            Pro-LBTQ+ 3
                            Anti religion 3
                            Pro-Communism 3

                            Bonus: Gaming Biases

                            Subject Mentions
                            Nintendo hate 3
                            Pro-SteamDeck 1
                            Anti-GOG 1
                            PC over console 1
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                            #167

                            American bias, millennial bias, left wing bias

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                              Already mentioned was the pro Linux and everything else sucks. Also, the Nintendo hate.

                              What I haven't seen is the high acceptance/love of furry content. I didn't know people could draw animals that hot. Not that it awakened anything in me.

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                              #168

                              You made me realise all the shit I've filtered. Def a furry bias and a anime girl bias here lol

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                                American bias, millennial bias, left wing bias

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                                I've got 2 out of 3!

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                                  People before profit.

                                  Cities should be walkable

                                  AI as we know it was unethically developed and is more marketing than solution.

                                  Trans rights are human rights. Even more, gender is a spectrum, so everyone really, is a tiny bit trans.

                                  Fuck Israel.

                                  Punch fascists.

                                  Instant nudeln eignen gut für MaiMais

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                                  I mean if this was an ad for Lemmy, it would work on me. Though I'm not sure what the fuck the last one is but it sounds fun anyway, Melden Sie mich an.

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                                    Trans people are almost attacked or banned all other platforms or at least astroturfed, it does make sense

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                                    Yep, I'm not trans but one of the main reasons I stopped even visiting reddit was how much transphobia there is everywhere. Like I used to be in a ton of LGBTQ+ subs and it was even showing up in there. I'm not about that life.

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                                      .world is the right wing instance

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                                      I've been on .world for over a year now and haven't really seen anything I'd call blatantly right-wing. But if this is right wing and the rest of lemmy is even more leftist, I'll gladly join the rest of yas elsewhere.

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                                      • knight_alva@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                                        IMHO Lemmy feels similar to how Reddit felt 10-15 years ago. The community seems closer to my age. The population is smaller. The content is less formulaic.

                                        The biases shown here feel like a distillation of the broader internet (similar to what Reddit used to be). We like animals and nature, we hate intrusive powerful forces like large corporations or invasive governments. We share a shit-post-y sense of humor. We tend to lean left politically. We love to feel like we know more than we actually do.

                                        On any given subject, if you ask “What would the internet think about this?” you will probably find that same opinion reflected strongly here.

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                                        It just struck me from the comments on this thread, but I think there's a correlation between the feeling of reddit 10-15 years ago and the average age here.

                                        If we go by the estimates that most people are 25-45 around here, that's all of us that were probably hanging out on early reddit 10-15 years ago. Like, I joined reddit when I was about 17, I'm 33 now and moved here a year ago and definitely feel those early reddit vibes. It feels similar because that was us. Am I talking crazy?

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                                          For as politically Left as Lemmy tends to run there still seems to be a high level of mysoginy.

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                                          I think that comes with the techy side of lemmy. IT is still very much a male-dominated field and while it's better now than it was maybe 10 years ago, the mentality lingers and women in tech still run into a lot of misogyny. It makes sense that more tech minded users who tend to work in or have a big interest in IT have that mentality.

                                          Even posting this, I'm a bit hesitant. To be clear, Lemmy is significantly less awful in terms of a lot of things, but I agree that I have seen some loud voices when it comes to misogyny.

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