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What are the biases of Lemmy?

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  • Q [email protected]

    What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?

    (Excluding US politics, due to community rules)

    Commonly mentioned biases:

    Subject Mentions
    Pro-Privacy 2
    Left-Wing 9
    Anti-Capitalism 5
    American 5
    Older 2
    Pro-Linux 3
    Tech people 5
    Anti-Ai 4
    Pro-LBTQ+ 3
    Anti religion 3
    Pro-Communism 3

    Bonus: Gaming Biases

    Subject Mentions
    Nintendo hate 3
    Pro-SteamDeck 1
    Anti-GOG 1
    PC over console 1
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    #25

    People before profit.

    Cities should be walkable

    AI as we know it was unethically developed and is more marketing than solution.

    Trans rights are human rights. Even more, gender is a spectrum, so everyone really, is a tiny bit trans.

    Fuck Israel.

    Punch fascists.

    Instant nudeln eignen gut für MaiMais

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    • Q [email protected]

      What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?

      (Excluding US politics, due to community rules)

      Commonly mentioned biases:

      Subject Mentions
      Pro-Privacy 2
      Left-Wing 9
      Anti-Capitalism 5
      American 5
      Older 2
      Pro-Linux 3
      Tech people 5
      Anti-Ai 4
      Pro-LBTQ+ 3
      Anti religion 3
      Pro-Communism 3

      Bonus: Gaming Biases

      Subject Mentions
      Nintendo hate 3
      Pro-SteamDeck 1
      Anti-GOG 1
      PC over console 1
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      #26

      It is very left, sometimes infuriatingly so when the people here defend autocratic countries such as Iran.

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      • Q [email protected]

        What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?

        (Excluding US politics, due to community rules)

        Commonly mentioned biases:

        Subject Mentions
        Pro-Privacy 2
        Left-Wing 9
        Anti-Capitalism 5
        American 5
        Older 2
        Pro-Linux 3
        Tech people 5
        Anti-Ai 4
        Pro-LBTQ+ 3
        Anti religion 3
        Pro-Communism 3

        Bonus: Gaming Biases

        Subject Mentions
        Nintendo hate 3
        Pro-SteamDeck 1
        Anti-GOG 1
        PC over console 1
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        #27

        Depends where you look. I also have no idea whats that 'general Internet' you mention. I mean, what are its biases?

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        • sickday@fedia.ioS [email protected]

          Baked beans are Nature's magic vegetable

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          Depends which beans you’re baking

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          • Q [email protected]

            What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?

            (Excluding US politics, due to community rules)

            Commonly mentioned biases:

            Subject Mentions
            Pro-Privacy 2
            Left-Wing 9
            Anti-Capitalism 5
            American 5
            Older 2
            Pro-Linux 3
            Tech people 5
            Anti-Ai 4
            Pro-LBTQ+ 3
            Anti religion 3
            Pro-Communism 3

            Bonus: Gaming Biases

            Subject Mentions
            Nintendo hate 3
            Pro-SteamDeck 1
            Anti-GOG 1
            PC over console 1
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            #29

            In no particular order: Anticapitalist, pro LGBT+, lots of stoners, most users from Americas and Western/Central Europe, lots of computer nerds, some anarchs, some tankies, anti religion

            Honestly similar to leftist parts of Reddit BUT with the voice of reason usually coming out on top in the comments. That means in comparison it's less alarmist, less extreme in general and just more nuanced.

            One topic that I think is a blind spot is the anti religion part. Many users don't distinguish between anti religion and anti spirituality, the latter frankly being none of their business. It's oddly accepted to be aggressively atheist here. Another blind spot is the prevalent defeatism. It's not everyone but I don't think people are aware of what they're doing to their own mind when they only focus on bad news all day.

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            • Y [email protected]

              Im still pretty unclear on the whole instance selection thing. I just tried a few until one worked.

              If in doubt, just try it until it works. If it still doesnt work either learn why or give up.

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              #30

              The secret is that it doesn't matter all that much beyond who that instance is federated with. Any of the popular ones will feel similar from the get-go and only more and more so as time goes on.

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              • O [email protected]

                I'll add:

                • AI bad
                • Piracy ok
                • Political posts are more frequent (Bias towards political expression)
                • More tech enthusiasts
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                #31

                "AI bad" overrides "Piracy ok", though. I've seen threads in the main piracy community where the general consensus seemed to be that copyright should be used as a weapon against AI.

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                • P [email protected]

                  Lemmy prefers Star Trek over Star Wars.

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                  #32

                  I'm a both-sides-kind-of-guy on this issue

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                  • Q [email protected]

                    What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?

                    (Excluding US politics, due to community rules)

                    Commonly mentioned biases:

                    Subject Mentions
                    Pro-Privacy 2
                    Left-Wing 9
                    Anti-Capitalism 5
                    American 5
                    Older 2
                    Pro-Linux 3
                    Tech people 5
                    Anti-Ai 4
                    Pro-LBTQ+ 3
                    Anti religion 3
                    Pro-Communism 3

                    Bonus: Gaming Biases

                    Subject Mentions
                    Nintendo hate 3
                    Pro-SteamDeck 1
                    Anti-GOG 1
                    PC over console 1
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                    #33

                    I've run into:

                    • Pro-liberalism
                    • Pro-LGBTQ+
                    • Pro-Linux
                    • Pro-Communism/Socialism
                    • Pro-Agnostic
                    • Pro-Indie(movie and video games)
                    • Pro-Body Autonomy
                    • PC Master Race
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                    • Q [email protected]

                      What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?

                      (Excluding US politics, due to community rules)

                      Commonly mentioned biases:

                      Subject Mentions
                      Pro-Privacy 2
                      Left-Wing 9
                      Anti-Capitalism 5
                      American 5
                      Older 2
                      Pro-Linux 3
                      Tech people 5
                      Anti-Ai 4
                      Pro-LBTQ+ 3
                      Anti religion 3
                      Pro-Communism 3

                      Bonus: Gaming Biases

                      Subject Mentions
                      Nintendo hate 3
                      Pro-SteamDeck 1
                      Anti-GOG 1
                      PC over console 1
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                      #34

                      All of them

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                      • G [email protected]

                        Which seems uninformed and ridiculous as Deep Learning for classification and regression problems is an absolute valid tool that cannot be replaced anymore in many domains. I don't care about LLM bullshit, but being "against Deep Learning in general" is stupid.

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                        #35

                        Anti ai nowadays almost exclusively means the over insertion of llms into ordinary life and/or the over trust of a blackbox computer program. People aren’t throwing hands because of alphafold as much as they are a prime minister using a language model to make policy decisions

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                        • G [email protected]

                          Which seems uninformed and ridiculous as Deep Learning for classification and regression problems is an absolute valid tool that cannot be replaced anymore in many domains. I don't care about LLM bullshit, but being "against Deep Learning in general" is stupid.

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                          #36

                          Oh are those the ones being shoved into all our orifices?

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                          • G [email protected]

                            Which seems uninformed and ridiculous as Deep Learning for classification and regression problems is an absolute valid tool that cannot be replaced anymore in many domains. I don't care about LLM bullshit, but being "against Deep Learning in general" is stupid.

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                            I think the biggest issues Lemmy has with it, which are valid, boil down to environmental impact, AI being used to replace working class people instead of making their lives better, and the way it’s being used to erase art as a part of human culture. If those three things weren’t an issue I’d be less wary of AI.

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                            • galoisghost@aussie.zoneG [email protected]

                              People before profit.

                              Cities should be walkable

                              AI as we know it was unethically developed and is more marketing than solution.

                              Trans rights are human rights. Even more, gender is a spectrum, so everyone really, is a tiny bit trans.

                              Fuck Israel.

                              Punch fascists.

                              Instant nudeln eignen gut für MaiMais

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                              #38

                              How is everyone a tiny bit trans, as you say? Genuinely curious since everything else you said resonates quite strongly with me, I'm just not sure what you mean by that point in particular.

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                              • Q [email protected]

                                What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?

                                (Excluding US politics, due to community rules)

                                Commonly mentioned biases:

                                Subject Mentions
                                Pro-Privacy 2
                                Left-Wing 9
                                Anti-Capitalism 5
                                American 5
                                Older 2
                                Pro-Linux 3
                                Tech people 5
                                Anti-Ai 4
                                Pro-LBTQ+ 3
                                Anti religion 3
                                Pro-Communism 3

                                Bonus: Gaming Biases

                                Subject Mentions
                                Nintendo hate 3
                                Pro-SteamDeck 1
                                Anti-GOG 1
                                PC over console 1
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                                #39

                                When there are human there is going to be biases

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                                • L [email protected]

                                  It is very left, sometimes infuriatingly so when the people here defend autocratic countries such as Iran.

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                                  Or communists defending the CCP seemingly entirely due to their name

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                                  • D [email protected]

                                    How is everyone a tiny bit trans, as you say? Genuinely curious since everything else you said resonates quite strongly with me, I'm just not sure what you mean by that point in particular.

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                                    #41

                                    It’s a spectrum so there are two extremes, you’re either at one extreme the 100% pure male or the other the 100% pure female. There can only be one person at either end. Therefore unless you, particularly, are one of the extremes (and let’s be honest those two people have no clue it’s them) you are on the spectrum somewhere in between. Meaning you are a tiny bit trans.

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                                    • Q [email protected]

                                      I'll go first.

                                      • I think there is a strong pro-Linux bias. It wouldn't surprise me if 40+% use it on here.
                                      • People from the US seem over-represented, but less so compared to Reddit
                                      • There is a far stronger anti-capitalist sentiment on here than other social media
                                      • The average age seems to be much higher. I joined when I was 16 and feel quite young unlike on other social media.
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                                      I agree that the average age is higher. You're the only other confirmed teenager that I have encountered while on Lemmy. I joined Lemmy when I was 17 during the Reddit emmigration.

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                                        I'm a both-sides-kind-of-guy on this issue

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                                        As an avid fan of both since I was a kid, I don't think these two are really at odds with each other.

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                                        • cruxifux@feddit.nlC [email protected]

                                          I think the biggest issues Lemmy has with it, which are valid, boil down to environmental impact, AI being used to replace working class people instead of making their lives better, and the way it’s being used to erase art as a part of human culture. If those three things weren’t an issue I’d be less wary of AI.

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                                          #44

                                          It's hard for me to feel that the environmental impact is the big reason, there are MUCH bigger fish to fry when it comes to the environment.

                                          Bitcoin ~65 Mt CO₂/year
                                          LLMs <10 Mt CO₂/year (est.)
                                          Holiday Flights ~900 Mt CO₂/year

                                          If the people crying about AI being bad for the environment isn't also very upset about people taking flights to go on holiday or crypto, then that's not really what they're upset about.

                                          Look, to be honest I wish LLMs were never invented, because I think it will just strip more money away from the poor and feed the rich, but yea, cat is out of the bag. and AI is VERY useful, we can't deny that.

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