What are the biases of Lemmy?
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IMHO Lemmy feels similar to how Reddit felt 10-15 years ago. The community seems closer to my age. The population is smaller. The content is less formulaic.
The biases shown here feel like a distillation of the broader internet (similar to what Reddit used to be). We like animals and nature, we hate intrusive powerful forces like large corporations or invasive governments. We share a shit-post-y sense of humor. We tend to lean left politically. We love to feel like we know more than we actually do.
On any given subject, if you ask “What would the internet think about this?” you will probably find that same opinion reflected strongly here.
The community seems closer to my age.
I feel like the community is split between 25~40s and pre-teens, lol
Though to be fair, it feels like a 70:30 split.
There are a lot of Reddit refugees here. Many came over because Reddit sucks. Others came during the API debacle. Some seem to have come here because they were banned from Reddit due to not really knowing how to follow the social rules of the internet.
The AskLemmy Community, for example, will have posts like this next to each other (if you sort by New):
What's the biggest issue you've seen when someone tried to shift to Linux?
Why do older people say im mature for my age but my friends still say things like hey buddy/pal??
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Which seems uninformed and ridiculous as Deep Learning for classification and regression problems is an absolute valid tool that cannot be replaced anymore in many domains. I don't care about LLM bullshit, but being "against Deep Learning in general" is stupid.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Nobody* is talking about machine learning when they say “AI” these days. They mean LLMs and generative AI and especially the way it is being forced into everything and destroying the environment to do so.
* not literally; there is certainly at least one person out there who objects to machine learning, deep learning, or whatever you want to call it. However this is not the general sentiment.
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It is very left, sometimes infuriatingly so when the people here defend autocratic countries such as Iran.
Always will be that way, too.
IIRC, Lemmy.ml was the first instance; the ones who built Lemmy. We're kind of the "normies" who've invaded their space.
I appreciate them for building Lemmy and letting it remain free ("freedom" free). Still, I'll argue with people who are saying crazy stuff like NK being a good place for its citizens to live...
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Are people anti non-generative AI? Or is broader AI just getting dragged in to the justified anti genAI sentiment?
I formed this question to myself and was about to post it, but then I remembered Lemmy also hates self-driving cars which are likely Convolutional Neural Networks (CNN) or Recurrent Nerual Networks (RNN) which are not part of Generative AI at all.
I think the hatred there is completely disconnected from the fact that it’s AI.
Both of them have in common that the technology is being forced upon us at the cost of lives, livelihoods, and the environment upon which we all rely to survive.
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I think the hatred there is completely disconnected from the fact that it’s AI.
Both of them have in common that the technology is being forced upon us at the cost of lives, livelihoods, and the environment upon which we all rely to survive.
I'm not sure I follow your logic. Those reasons you give are still hatred of AI because of those results (job loss, etc). How is that not hatred of AI?
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What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?
(Excluding US politics, due to community rules)
Commonly mentioned biases:
Subject Mentions Pro-Privacy 2 Left-Wing 9 Anti-Capitalism 5 American 5 Older 2 Pro-Linux 3 Tech people 5 Anti-Ai 4 Pro-LBTQ+ 3 Anti religion 3 Pro-Communism 3 Bonus: Gaming Biases
Subject Mentions Nintendo hate 3 Pro-SteamDeck 1 Anti-GOG 1 PC over console 1 This probably sounds like a dodge of an answer, but...
It depends on the Lemmy instance. Some are anarchistic, some are very left wing anti-establishment, some are hardcore tankies, and I've heard somewhere there's a right-wing instance? Some hate certain technologies, some love those technologies, etc.
I don't think it's realistic to lump all Lemmy instances (and users) together under a single ideological umbrella. That's like lumping everyone from America or any other county together for their opinions.
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As an avid fan of both since I was a kid, I don't think these two are really at odds with each other.
You're paraphrasing "Only Sith deals in absolutes" and you're showing your bias.
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Most of Lemmy is anti-AI, especially generative AI.
If you get all your info from Lemmy you'd probably think that AI is a worthless hype bubble that can't do anything right and will collapse and go away in a few years.
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What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?
(Excluding US politics, due to community rules)
Commonly mentioned biases:
Subject Mentions Pro-Privacy 2 Left-Wing 9 Anti-Capitalism 5 American 5 Older 2 Pro-Linux 3 Tech people 5 Anti-Ai 4 Pro-LBTQ+ 3 Anti religion 3 Pro-Communism 3 Bonus: Gaming Biases
Subject Mentions Nintendo hate 3 Pro-SteamDeck 1 Anti-GOG 1 PC over console 1 Clearly a severe leftist bias. Not just in the context of US politics.
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Clearly a severe leftist bias. Not just in the context of US politics.
It's not a bias if you're right
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This probably sounds like a dodge of an answer, but...
It depends on the Lemmy instance. Some are anarchistic, some are very left wing anti-establishment, some are hardcore tankies, and I've heard somewhere there's a right-wing instance? Some hate certain technologies, some love those technologies, etc.
I don't think it's realistic to lump all Lemmy instances (and users) together under a single ideological umbrella. That's like lumping everyone from America or any other county together for their opinions.
.world is the right wing instance
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Thinking we're better than everyone who's still on Reddit
It's not bias if you're right
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I'm not sure I follow your logic. Those reasons you give are still hatred of AI because of those results (job loss, etc). How is that not hatred of AI?
The self-driving cars are not hatred of AI. Nobody* cares that they use machine-learning to enable the cars to drive themselves.
It’s not hatred of AI there.
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"AI bad" overrides "Piracy ok", though. I've seen threads in the main piracy community where the general consensus seemed to be that copyright should be used as a weapon against AI.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Just a guess. Because piracy advocacy isn't about not paying, it's about not supporting megacorporations and anti-artistic business models. It's a form of protest, I suspect most advocates would buy media legally when it doesn't feel enshittified.
They would probably also support companies that used AI but did not fire workers as a result.
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Just a guess. Because piracy advocacy isn't about not paying, it's about not supporting megacorporations and anti-artistic business models. It's a form of protest, I suspect most advocates would buy media legally when it doesn't feel enshittified.
They would probably also support companies that used AI but did not fire workers as a result.
Because piracy advocacy here on the Fediverse is about that, yeah. You're saying the same thing I am, that the Fediverse's pro-piracy bias is "overridden" by its anti-AI bias.
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.world is the right wing instance
This brings up another facet: when it comes to ideological biases it's all subjective.
I consider lemmy.world slightly left of center overall, but again with important caveats that some communities within it are pretty left wing and some are pretty right wing. But maybe to someone pretty far on the left of the political spectrum the instance seems very right wing, while to someone pretty far to the right it seems like almost everyone are 'rabid pinko commies'.
Basically, things are more complicated than they may look.
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Because piracy advocacy here on the Fediverse is about that, yeah. You're saying the same thing I am, that the Fediverse's pro-piracy bias is "overridden" by its anti-AI bias.
wrote last edited by [email protected]It's the same thing. It's about protesting against big companies that hurt workers and artists.
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This brings up another facet: when it comes to ideological biases it's all subjective.
I consider lemmy.world slightly left of center overall, but again with important caveats that some communities within it are pretty left wing and some are pretty right wing. But maybe to someone pretty far on the left of the political spectrum the instance seems very right wing, while to someone pretty far to the right it seems like almost everyone are 'rabid pinko commies'.
Basically, things are more complicated than they may look.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Wrong, because of what words mean and the context implied by the .world domain itself
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It's not a bias if you're right
No, we're left, please pay attention
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- The average age seems to be much higher. I joined when I was 16 and feel quite young unlike on other social media.
Enjoy. Less echo bubbles. This goes in both directions, but mainly I value that younger people are able to be part of "mature conversations". Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to underestimate your worldview or anything. It's just that I'm remembering when I was around your age, the Internet was in a raw form, and it felt much like this. I was amazed to be able to talk with other adults and learn about their tastes on say books or movies when I joined some theme specific chat channel (via protocol IRC). At some point this changed drastically (e.g. Facebook connecting people from real life/ schools).. and I think nowadays TikTok, Insta, and for the most part, even YouTube are just centered around being young, pretty... very much like mainstream TV.
Yeah, I enjoyed that about reddit at that ave too. As an isolated teen it's all I had
