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What are the biases of Lemmy?

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    It is very left, sometimes infuriatingly so when the people here defend autocratic countries such as Iran.

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    Always will be that way, too.

    IIRC, Lemmy.ml was the first instance; the ones who built Lemmy. We're kind of the "normies" who've invaded their space.

    I appreciate them for building Lemmy and letting it remain free ("freedom" free). Still, I'll argue with people who are saying crazy stuff like NK being a good place for its citizens to live...

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      Are people anti non-generative AI? Or is broader AI just getting dragged in to the justified anti genAI sentiment?

      I formed this question to myself and was about to post it, but then I remembered Lemmy also hates self-driving cars which are likely Convolutional Neural Networks (CNN) or Recurrent Nerual Networks (RNN) which are not part of Generative AI at all.

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      I think the hatred there is completely disconnected from the fact that it’s AI.

      Both of them have in common that the technology is being forced upon us at the cost of lives, livelihoods, and the environment upon which we all rely to survive.

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        I think the hatred there is completely disconnected from the fact that it’s AI.

        Both of them have in common that the technology is being forced upon us at the cost of lives, livelihoods, and the environment upon which we all rely to survive.

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        I'm not sure I follow your logic. Those reasons you give are still hatred of AI because of those results (job loss, etc). How is that not hatred of AI?

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          What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?

          (Excluding US politics, due to community rules)

          Commonly mentioned biases:

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          Pro-Privacy 2
          Left-Wing 9
          Anti-Capitalism 5
          American 5
          Older 2
          Pro-Linux 3
          Tech people 5
          Anti-Ai 4
          Pro-LBTQ+ 3
          Anti religion 3
          Pro-Communism 3

          Bonus: Gaming Biases

          Subject Mentions
          Nintendo hate 3
          Pro-SteamDeck 1
          Anti-GOG 1
          PC over console 1
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          This probably sounds like a dodge of an answer, but...

          It depends on the Lemmy instance. Some are anarchistic, some are very left wing anti-establishment, some are hardcore tankies, and I've heard somewhere there's a right-wing instance? Some hate certain technologies, some love those technologies, etc.

          I don't think it's realistic to lump all Lemmy instances (and users) together under a single ideological umbrella. That's like lumping everyone from America or any other county together for their opinions.

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            As an avid fan of both since I was a kid, I don't think these two are really at odds with each other.

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            You're paraphrasing "Only Sith deals in absolutes" and you're showing your bias. 😀

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              Most of Lemmy is anti-AI, especially generative AI.

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              If you get all your info from Lemmy you'd probably think that AI is a worthless hype bubble that can't do anything right and will collapse and go away in a few years.

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                What do you think Lemmy is most biased about? Which opinions do you think differ most from the general internet?

                (Excluding US politics, due to community rules)

                Commonly mentioned biases:

                Subject Mentions
                Pro-Privacy 2
                Left-Wing 9
                Anti-Capitalism 5
                American 5
                Older 2
                Pro-Linux 3
                Tech people 5
                Anti-Ai 4
                Pro-LBTQ+ 3
                Anti religion 3
                Pro-Communism 3

                Bonus: Gaming Biases

                Subject Mentions
                Nintendo hate 3
                Pro-SteamDeck 1
                Anti-GOG 1
                PC over console 1
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                Clearly a severe leftist bias. Not just in the context of US politics.

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                  Clearly a severe leftist bias. Not just in the context of US politics.

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                  It's not a bias if you're right

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                  • thepowerofgeek@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                    This probably sounds like a dodge of an answer, but...

                    It depends on the Lemmy instance. Some are anarchistic, some are very left wing anti-establishment, some are hardcore tankies, and I've heard somewhere there's a right-wing instance? Some hate certain technologies, some love those technologies, etc.

                    I don't think it's realistic to lump all Lemmy instances (and users) together under a single ideological umbrella. That's like lumping everyone from America or any other county together for their opinions.

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                    .world is the right wing instance

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                      Thinking we're better than everyone who's still on Reddit

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                      It's not bias if you're right

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                        I'm not sure I follow your logic. Those reasons you give are still hatred of AI because of those results (job loss, etc). How is that not hatred of AI?

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                        The self-driving cars are not hatred of AI. Nobody* cares that they use machine-learning to enable the cars to drive themselves.

                        It’s not hatred of AI there.

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                        • facedeer@fedia.ioF [email protected]

                          "AI bad" overrides "Piracy ok", though. I've seen threads in the main piracy community where the general consensus seemed to be that copyright should be used as a weapon against AI.

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                          Just a guess. Because piracy advocacy isn't about not paying, it's about not supporting megacorporations and anti-artistic business models. It's a form of protest, I suspect most advocates would buy media legally when it doesn't feel enshittified.

                          They would probably also support companies that used AI but did not fire workers as a result.

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                            Just a guess. Because piracy advocacy isn't about not paying, it's about not supporting megacorporations and anti-artistic business models. It's a form of protest, I suspect most advocates would buy media legally when it doesn't feel enshittified.

                            They would probably also support companies that used AI but did not fire workers as a result.

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                            Because piracy advocacy here on the Fediverse is about that, yeah. You're saying the same thing I am, that the Fediverse's pro-piracy bias is "overridden" by its anti-AI bias.

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                              .world is the right wing instance

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                              This brings up another facet: when it comes to ideological biases it's all subjective.

                              I consider lemmy.world slightly left of center overall, but again with important caveats that some communities within it are pretty left wing and some are pretty right wing. But maybe to someone pretty far on the left of the political spectrum the instance seems very right wing, while to someone pretty far to the right it seems like almost everyone are 'rabid pinko commies'.

                              Basically, things are more complicated than they may look.

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                              • facedeer@fedia.ioF [email protected]

                                Because piracy advocacy here on the Fediverse is about that, yeah. You're saying the same thing I am, that the Fediverse's pro-piracy bias is "overridden" by its anti-AI bias.

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                                It's the same thing. It's about protesting against big companies that hurt workers and artists.

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                                • thepowerofgeek@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                  This brings up another facet: when it comes to ideological biases it's all subjective.

                                  I consider lemmy.world slightly left of center overall, but again with important caveats that some communities within it are pretty left wing and some are pretty right wing. But maybe to someone pretty far on the left of the political spectrum the instance seems very right wing, while to someone pretty far to the right it seems like almost everyone are 'rabid pinko commies'.

                                  Basically, things are more complicated than they may look.

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                                  Wrong, because of what words mean and the context implied by the .world domain itself

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                                    It's not a bias if you're right

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                                    No, we're left, please pay attention 🙃

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                                      • The average age seems to be much higher. I joined when I was 16 and feel quite young unlike on other social media.

                                      Enjoy. Less echo bubbles. This goes in both directions, but mainly I value that younger people are able to be part of "mature conversations". Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to underestimate your worldview or anything. It's just that I'm remembering when I was around your age, the Internet was in a raw form, and it felt much like this. I was amazed to be able to talk with other adults and learn about their tastes on say books or movies when I joined some theme specific chat channel (via protocol IRC). At some point this changed drastically (e.g. Facebook connecting people from real life/ schools).. and I think nowadays TikTok, Insta, and for the most part, even YouTube are just centered around being young, pretty... very much like mainstream TV.

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                                      Yeah, I enjoyed that about reddit at that ave too. As an isolated teen it's all I had

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                                        Lemmy prefers Star Trek over Star Wars.

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                                        I like both, the new series they're doing in wars have been great

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                                          Lemmy prefers Star Trek over Star Wars.

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                                          Unfortunately it's just harder to be a Star Wars fan since Disney bought it.

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