Me too, man
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It's nuts to me that American schools start so early. Ours had first bell around 8:30. By high school is was closer to nine.
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We've known this for decades, but almost no districts will make the changes necessary. The youngest grades (K-4 or 5) should be the first schools to start in the morning, and the HS the last.
What happens when that is suggested is people balk at either sports programs needing to be cut or the argument that the older siblings need to be out of school to babysit the younger siblings.
well modern public schools are basically glorified daycares.
awful start time policies being the norm never changes despite the massive mountain of evidence it should because parents typically need to go into work in the morning. society collectively decided shafting kids’ sleep schedules by starting school before the already absurdly early 9-5 was the best we could do on that compromise.
and to an extent, that’s true, because we’d have to reform a lot more than just schools to effectively implement this change. there just isn’t the will in the public sphere to push this.
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The human REM sleep cycle is 90 minutes long. As long as your sleep in multiples of 90 minutes, you'll feel rested.
9 hrs or 6 hours would work but not 10 hours or 30 minutes.Edit: I meant the entire non-REM and REM sleep stages altogether and not just the specific section of REM.
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The human REM sleep cycle is 90 minutes long. As long as your sleep in multiples of 90 minutes, you'll feel rested.
9 hrs or 6 hours would work but not 10 hours or 30 minutes.Edit: I meant the entire non-REM and REM sleep stages altogether and not just the specific section of REM.
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GermanGarmin tracks my sleep daily and I’ve never had a REM stage of sleep be 90 minutes.
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GermanGarmin tracks my sleep daily and I’ve never had a REM stage of sleep be 90 minutes.I don't think this tracking can be that accurate.
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GermanGarmin tracks my sleep daily and I’ve never had a REM stage of sleep be 90 minutes.I don't know about your German (har har), but I'm not very confident in what my Garmin or any fitness watch detects on sleep. I got a Garmin to replace my FitBit, wore them both for a while, and saw they didn't have much consensus on sleep data.
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It's nuts to me that American schools start so early. Ours had first bell around 8:30. By high school is was closer to nine.
In Hungary they also start between 7:15-7:45; I kinda loved it as we would finish the day earlier
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We've known this for decades, but almost no districts will make the changes necessary. The youngest grades (K-4 or 5) should be the first schools to start in the morning, and the HS the last.
What happens when that is suggested is people balk at either sports programs needing to be cut or the argument that the older siblings need to be out of school to babysit the younger siblings.
Yep, exactly.
Almost 30 years now we've known that shifting around the school schedule by roughly a max of 2 hours would result in significantly improved learning across the board, for basically 0 cost... and we don't do it.
America is a scam.
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GermanGarmin tracks my sleep daily and I’ve never had a REM stage of sleep be 90 minutes.I don't have a German that would track my sleep
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I don't think this tracking can be that accurate.
Well after a cursory look online it seems OP was talking incorrectly.
Studies show that sleep itself is segmented in 90 minute blocks with REM coming at the end. Rather than the REM section being 90 minutes.
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I don't know about your German (har har), but I'm not very confident in what my Garmin or any fitness watch detects on sleep. I got a Garmin to replace my FitBit, wore them both for a while, and saw they didn't have much consensus on sleep data.
Thanks for the insight.
Yeah I more took issue with OP saying REM sleep, after a quick search it seems sleep might be in blocks of 90 minutes with REM coming at the end of the each block, and less that REM sleep is that long.
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I don't have a German that would track my sleep
They’re all the rage, if you can get a mute one then it’s better otherwise they keep banging on about fair wages and sleep breaks
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Nothing lowkey about it. Shit's fucked up.
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I remember in high school we had before school weight lifting which started so early. So start with that, do a full day of class, after school sports and then homework before doing it again. Pretty crazy how many things were crammed in a day.
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Well after a cursory look online it seems OP was talking incorrectly.
Studies show that sleep itself is segmented in 90 minute blocks with REM coming at the end. Rather than the REM section being 90 minutes.
Also OP is claiming you’ll feel rested, which is completely different than actually being rested.
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The real reason is to accomodate for parents' routines. You need the kid in a place where someone can watch them for you by the time you leave for work (or not long after). Plus yeah they gotta learn to follow schedules and have responsibilities and such. Not saying I think it's a perfect system, I too hated getting off bed early in the morning.
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The real reason is to accomodate for parents' routines. You need the kid in a place where someone can watch them for you by the time you leave for work (or not long after). Plus yeah they gotta learn to follow schedules and have responsibilities and such. Not saying I think it's a perfect system, I too hated getting off bed early in the morning.
i disagree. my elementary school started later and thats the age when parents really need to be more present. and as a kid i had no issue getting up early vs as a teen. they should just flip it. teens on a bus route, or hell even witj friends with a car, are way more capable of getting themselves to school
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Yep, exactly.
Almost 30 years now we've known that shifting around the school schedule by roughly a max of 2 hours would result in significantly improved learning across the board, for basically 0 cost... and we don't do it.
America is a scam.
School is conditioning for work. They need you sleep-deprived because if you have any extra energy you might use it to analyze your situation and attempt to improve it.
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I was an incredibly angsty teenager, mad at the world and hostile to just about everyone by default. Apathetic, grumpy, and uninterested in physical activity or the things I liked as a preteen.
After having a baby and getting very little sleep for 6 months I recognized some of my old patterns. Turns out, it wasn't just part of being a teen, I was chronically sleep deprived. I was up at 6am most days back then, when I would sleep until 1pm on weekends. I think a lot of teens are unfairly characterized as angry and defiant when they're operating on half or a quarter of the sleep they need.
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It's nuts to me that American schools start so early. Ours had first bell around 8:30. By high school is was closer to nine.
My kids start school at 8:20 and I was amazed how late American school starts (and inconvenient for working parents). My school started at 7:30 when I was their age in Eastern Europe.
