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      Sounds more like the musings of a hedonist than a badass. The incoordination and head trauma are not as far off brand as he thinks it is.

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        Wow. They aped after Corey Taylor circa 2005. Atleast he had something to lose considering how metal viewed other styles of music back then.

        Admitting that you liked pop or even a pop-song could actually have killed his credibility.

        This just sounds like an obnoxious person that kills social interaction for fun.

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          Feels badass. Works in a room with a whiteboard.

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            Sounds more like the musings of a hedonist than a badass. The incoordination and head trauma are not as far off brand as he thinks it is.

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            What do you have against hedonists? I think it's pretty bad ass to be happy regardless of how others judge you.

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              What do you have against hedonists? I think it's pretty bad ass to be happy regardless of how others judge you.

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              I'm sure the ghost of Jeffery Epstein appreciates your support.

              I will generally not fault someone for what they like, but engaging in whatever it is without regard for others is not a recipe for a good society. Sure, don't care what everyone thinks, but there are plenty of reasons to not do something that would bring you pleasure.

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                Wow. They aped after Corey Taylor circa 2005. Atleast he had something to lose considering how metal viewed other styles of music back then.

                Admitting that you liked pop or even a pop-song could actually have killed his credibility.

                This just sounds like an obnoxious person that kills social interaction for fun.

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                Aww. Sounds like someone's padding their cringe cult membership like the Mormons do. 🤌🏼

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                  What do you have against hedonists? I think it's pretty bad ass to be happy regardless of how others judge you.

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                  That's not what hedonism is. Hedonism is the pursuit of physical pleasure as the primary purpose in life. The problem with that is our brains are very good at moving our emotional goalposts to adapt to our circumstances, so we end up chasing greater and greater pleasures in a process called the "hedonic treadmill."

                  Billionaires are a good example of this. They get their kicks from watching their bank account go up and acquiring new things. But their brains quickly adapt to the new "normal", and then they need a higher number or newer thing. It's never enough.

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                    That's not what hedonism is. Hedonism is the pursuit of physical pleasure as the primary purpose in life. The problem with that is our brains are very good at moving our emotional goalposts to adapt to our circumstances, so we end up chasing greater and greater pleasures in a process called the "hedonic treadmill."

                    Billionaires are a good example of this. They get their kicks from watching their bank account go up and acquiring new things. But their brains quickly adapt to the new "normal", and then they need a higher number or newer thing. It's never enough.

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                    That's my definition as well. I've drawn different conclusions, though. Hedonism, nihmism, etc... they've all gotten a bad name because of Edge lords who burn out. You don't have to be over consumeristic or do copious amounts of drugs. That would go AGAINST hedonism because you'll be unable to pursue pleasure in the future. It doesn't have to be an immediate payoff.

                    You're upset with people who are short-sighted, not hedonists. Those things aren't exclusive, but I think you catch my drift.

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                      Sounds more like the musings of a hedonist than a badass. The incoordination and head trauma are not as far off brand as he thinks it is.

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                      Hedonism IS pretty badass when done ethically and collectively.

                      Maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain in the world is a much better thing to live for than accruing capital or assuring that people within a certain geographical area have it better than others if you ask me 🤷

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                        Feels badass. Works in a room with a whiteboard.

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                        you know what's badass? being stuck in a room full of hungry angry teenagers that smell like ass and balls for eight hours a day five days a week over the span of 20 years for $32k a year and not once succumbing to the dark desires of killing yourself.

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                          Aww. Sounds like someone's padding their cringe cult membership like the Mormons do. 🤌🏼

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                          Fucking lol. Had this nick since before the automaker, cunt.

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                            you know what's badass? being stuck in a room full of hungry angry teenagers that smell like ass and balls for eight hours a day five days a week over the span of 20 years for $32k a year and not once succumbing to the dark desires of killing yourself.

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                            That’s oddly specific.

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                              That’s oddly specific.

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                                Hedonism IS pretty badass when done ethically and collectively.

                                Maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain in the world is a much better thing to live for than accruing capital or assuring that people within a certain geographical area have it better than others if you ask me 🤷

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                                Maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain in the world is a much better thing to live for than accruing capital or assuring that people within a certain geographical area have it better than others if you ask me 🤷

                                Sure but that doesn't make it badass.

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                                  Fucking lol. Had this nick since before the automaker, cunt.

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                                  It suits you, cupcake.

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                                    Maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain in the world is a much better thing to live for than accruing capital or assuring that people within a certain geographical area have it better than others if you ask me 🤷

                                    Sure but that doesn't make it badass.

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                                    It does if you succeed

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                                      Hedonism IS pretty badass when done ethically and collectively.

                                      Maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain in the world is a much better thing to live for than accruing capital or assuring that people within a certain geographical area have it better than others if you ask me 🤷

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                                      The reason why it isn't badass is it prioritizies self over others. Under a hedonistic worldview, your own pleasure matters more than another living beings pain.

                                      It aligns well with capitalism and its inventivization of personal enrichment even if at an expense to others.

                                      In my view being "badass" is taking care of each other, even the supposed "least" amongst us (if we are to believe in such hierarchies), as our superheros and religious figures are written.

                                      There's a reason we have immortalized such figures and I would describe exactly none of them as hedonistic. Rather they often take on incredible personal pain to bring safety and security to others. That is what I would call badass.

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                                        The reason why it isn't badass is it prioritizies self over others. Under a hedonistic worldview, your own pleasure matters more than another living beings pain.

                                        It aligns well with capitalism and its inventivization of personal enrichment even if at an expense to others.

                                        In my view being "badass" is taking care of each other, even the supposed "least" amongst us (if we are to believe in such hierarchies), as our superheros and religious figures are written.

                                        There's a reason we have immortalized such figures and I would describe exactly none of them as hedonistic. Rather they often take on incredible personal pain to bring safety and security to others. That is what I would call badass.

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                                        The reason why it isn't badass is it prioritizies self over others

                                        Did you not spot the "ethically and collectively" part? It's very near the start of the comment and invalidates your entire objection.

                                        In my view being "badass" is taking care of each other, even the supposed "least" amongst us

                                        Couldn't agree more if I tried. Except I'd change "even" to "especially". Minimizing of pain, remember?

                                        they often take on incredible personal pain to bring safety and security to others. That is what I would call badass.

                                        Again, ethical and collective hedonism inevitably includes such sacrifice for the common good

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                                          I'm sure the ghost of Jeffery Epstein appreciates your support.

                                          I will generally not fault someone for what they like, but engaging in whatever it is without regard for others is not a recipe for a good society. Sure, don't care what everyone thinks, but there are plenty of reasons to not do something that would bring you pleasure.

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                                          Dog, what the fuck?

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