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    The reason why it isn't badass is it prioritizies self over others

    Did you not spot the "ethically and collectively" part? It's very near the start of the comment and invalidates your entire objection.

    In my view being "badass" is taking care of each other, even the supposed "least" amongst us

    Couldn't agree more if I tried. Except I'd change "even" to "especially". Minimizing of pain, remember?

    they often take on incredible personal pain to bring safety and security to others. That is what I would call badass.

    Again, ethical and collective hedonism inevitably includes such sacrifice for the common good

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    Collective hedonism is an abstract ideal that has not quite had any real world application. I have met quite a few hedonistic individuals but have yet to see a successfully and consistently hedonistic group. It's hard to get a large group to agree on what is meaningfully pleasurable. For the purposes of this discussion it's too abstract to be relevant and even if it was I'm still not quite sure why it would be 'badass' as doing the pleasurable thing often does not coincide with doing the right thing.

    Collective pleasure does not exist with any degree of permanence but collective prevention of harm absolutely does, and often requires sacrifice / hardship, which is what I would define as "badass"

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      Sounds more like the musings of a hedonist than a badass. The incoordination and head trauma are not as far off brand as he thinks it is.

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      I think the badass part was the presentation, which made immediately tripping on a wire all the more embarrassing.

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        That's not what hedonism is. Hedonism is the pursuit of physical pleasure as the primary purpose in life. The problem with that is our brains are very good at moving our emotional goalposts to adapt to our circumstances, so we end up chasing greater and greater pleasures in a process called the "hedonic treadmill."

        Billionaires are a good example of this. They get their kicks from watching their bank account go up and acquiring new things. But their brains quickly adapt to the new "normal", and then they need a higher number or newer thing. It's never enough.

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        Notwithstanding this reasoning, many uber-wealthy people consistently say that at some point money itself ceases to be a motivating factor. Once their net worth becomes a meaninglessly large number ir's more about the thrill of seeing large-scale plans come true, overcoming huge obstacles, changing the world, feeling superhuman, etc.

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          Notwithstanding this reasoning, many uber-wealthy people consistently say that at some point money itself ceases to be a motivating factor. Once their net worth becomes a meaninglessly large number ir's more about the thrill of seeing large-scale plans come true, overcoming huge obstacles, changing the world, feeling superhuman, etc.

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          Billionaires and politicians say a lot of things. As long as they continue to hoard wealth like dragons while millions starve, I'm gonna think money continues to be a motivating factor.

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            Billionaires and politicians say a lot of things. As long as they continue to hoard wealth like dragons while millions starve, I'm gonna think money continues to be a motivating factor.

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            I don't think we mean the same thing by "motivating" but whatever, yeah billionaires are bad and it would be better if we capped wealth.

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              Watching interracial porn dressed up as Adolf Hitler.

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              why does that make you guilty

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              • justas@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                Watching interracial porn dressed up as Adolf Hitler.

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                Aaah, the dicktator fetish.

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                  But did they enjoy it?

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                    That's my definition as well. I've drawn different conclusions, though. Hedonism, nihmism, etc... they've all gotten a bad name because of Edge lords who burn out. You don't have to be over consumeristic or do copious amounts of drugs. That would go AGAINST hedonism because you'll be unable to pursue pleasure in the future. It doesn't have to be an immediate payoff.

                    You're upset with people who are short-sighted, not hedonists. Those things aren't exclusive, but I think you catch my drift.

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                    I think what you described here is epicureanism, not hedonism.

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                      Teachers are bad ass muddahs who don’t take no crap off of nobody!

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