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Anyone else getting really sick of Gemini assistant?

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  • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

    I was a heavy voice user of the old Google Assistant, as well as Google Home/Nest speakers, and have really grown to hate its Gemini based replacement on my phone. So often it screws up with basic commands that were intuitive and reliable on the old Assistant. It's also slower and feels like a waste of resources to query an LLM for simple device and smart home commands

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    I think there is a way to bring back Assistant on your phone, mine still has it.

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    • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

      I was a heavy voice user of the old Google Assistant, as well as Google Home/Nest speakers, and have really grown to hate its Gemini based replacement on my phone. So often it screws up with basic commands that were intuitive and reliable on the old Assistant. It's also slower and feels like a waste of resources to query an LLM for simple device and smart home commands

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      I love that it has to repeat my command back to me before executing it, like shut up and do it already

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        I think there is a way to bring back Assistant on your phone, mine still has it.

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        I was trying to stick with the new one, but I just caved and put it back. I have started cussing at it when it responds incorrectly

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        • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

          I was a heavy voice user of the old Google Assistant, as well as Google Home/Nest speakers, and have really grown to hate its Gemini based replacement on my phone. So often it screws up with basic commands that were intuitive and reliable on the old Assistant. It's also slower and feels like a waste of resources to query an LLM for simple device and smart home commands

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          I liked the old assistant. I tried to use chatGPT as my assistant but it also had that slow LLM response time.

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          • brunbrun6766@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

            I love that it has to repeat my command back to me before executing it, like shut up and do it already

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            That feature is especially sucky when you ask it to play a song to surprise your wife, and it goes, "playing your wedding song on YouTube..."

            It's like, dude, let the song be a surprise, stop stealing my thunder.

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              Nope. Never used it. No idea where it even is on my phone. Sounds like i made the right call.

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              I didn't realize anything has changed. I have been disinclining to acquiesce to all Assistant data harvesting for over a decade now.

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              • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                I was a heavy voice user of the old Google Assistant, as well as Google Home/Nest speakers, and have really grown to hate its Gemini based replacement on my phone. So often it screws up with basic commands that were intuitive and reliable on the old Assistant. It's also slower and feels like a waste of resources to query an LLM for simple device and smart home commands

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                I wouldn't know, I turn all "Assistants" off. I know they're still there, but they don't respond.

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                • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                  I was a heavy voice user of the old Google Assistant, as well as Google Home/Nest speakers, and have really grown to hate its Gemini based replacement on my phone. So often it screws up with basic commands that were intuitive and reliable on the old Assistant. It's also slower and feels like a waste of resources to query an LLM for simple device and smart home commands

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                  the only use I've gotten has been finding where the "Accessibility settings" are (mono audio).

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                  • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                    I was a heavy voice user of the old Google Assistant, as well as Google Home/Nest speakers, and have really grown to hate its Gemini based replacement on my phone. So often it screws up with basic commands that were intuitive and reliable on the old Assistant. It's also slower and feels like a waste of resources to query an LLM for simple device and smart home commands

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                    I really liked it at first but it doesn't do assistant things as well, for example playing music, so I switched back to the Google Assistant

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                    • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                      I was a heavy voice user of the old Google Assistant, as well as Google Home/Nest speakers, and have really grown to hate its Gemini based replacement on my phone. So often it screws up with basic commands that were intuitive and reliable on the old Assistant. It's also slower and feels like a waste of resources to query an LLM for simple device and smart home commands

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                      It couldn't perform simple commands that Google Assistant used to do, so I reverted. I liked the voice, but it's really not an assistant yet.

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                      • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                        I was a heavy voice user of the old Google Assistant, as well as Google Home/Nest speakers, and have really grown to hate its Gemini based replacement on my phone. So often it screws up with basic commands that were intuitive and reliable on the old Assistant. It's also slower and feels like a waste of resources to query an LLM for simple device and smart home commands

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                        I think it's just fine now. It's gotten a lot better since it first came out.

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                          I think there is a way to bring back Assistant on your phone, mine still has it.

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                          You also don't have to use whatever Google wants you to use. You can change the default assistant, though I don't use any voice assistant so I don't know what alternatives are out there, besides home assistant which is probably a bit much for most people.

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                          • brunbrun6766@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                            I love that it has to repeat my command back to me before executing it, like shut up and do it already

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                            love that it has to repeat my command back to me before executing it

                            This is inserted to give enough time for the LLM to process your command. Otherwise Google would have to pony up for a lot more compute horsepower to make it performant.

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                            • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                              I was a heavy voice user of the old Google Assistant, as well as Google Home/Nest speakers, and have really grown to hate its Gemini based replacement on my phone. So often it screws up with basic commands that were intuitive and reliable on the old Assistant. It's also slower and feels like a waste of resources to query an LLM for simple device and smart home commands

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                              My brother used Google Home/Nest speakers with Google Assistant to automate his entire home. Everything from turning on lights, setting the heat/ac, turning on the TV, listening to music, controlling curtains and blinds etc. It was all based on voice commands. He also used it to make simple shopping lists.

                              Since it got turned into the LLM based one he's been complaining non stop. It's super slow and doesn't understand what to do half of the time. Very simple voice commands will not be understood. Or it would understand perfectly, but instead of executing the command it would search on Google or something dumb like that.

                              The latest update has made it much much worse it seems, with the thing becoming even slower and basically unusable. The dream of a Star Trek like setup where you can talk to the computer is dead at the moment.

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                              • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                I was a heavy voice user of the old Google Assistant, as well as Google Home/Nest speakers, and have really grown to hate its Gemini based replacement on my phone. So often it screws up with basic commands that were intuitive and reliable on the old Assistant. It's also slower and feels like a waste of resources to query an LLM for simple device and smart home commands

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                                no voice assistant has ever worked reliably in my language so just don't see the point

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                                • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                  I was a heavy voice user of the old Google Assistant, as well as Google Home/Nest speakers, and have really grown to hate its Gemini based replacement on my phone. So often it screws up with basic commands that were intuitive and reliable on the old Assistant. It's also slower and feels like a waste of resources to query an LLM for simple device and smart home commands

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                                  Fuck Google.

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                                  • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                    I was a heavy voice user of the old Google Assistant, as well as Google Home/Nest speakers, and have really grown to hate its Gemini based replacement on my phone. So often it screws up with basic commands that were intuitive and reliable on the old Assistant. It's also slower and feels like a waste of resources to query an LLM for simple device and smart home commands

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                                    I've never used an assistant. Aside from the privacy issues, I've just always found them massively cringe unless they are being used for accessibility purposes. Sorry everyone in this thread, but when you guys talk to your phone or "smart home" stuff to complete basic 2 second tasks you look fucking stupid.

                                    EDIT: I get it, I triggered you guys. You aren't gonna convince me by explaining how very smart you are telling your phone to flick a light switch for you.

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                                      That feature is especially sucky when you ask it to play a song to surprise your wife, and it goes, "playing your wedding song on YouTube..."

                                      It's like, dude, let the song be a surprise, stop stealing my thunder.

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                                      Then stop asking crappy assistants to pleasure your wife with surprise music. Just do it yourself next time.

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                                      • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                        I was a heavy voice user of the old Google Assistant, as well as Google Home/Nest speakers, and have really grown to hate its Gemini based replacement on my phone. So often it screws up with basic commands that were intuitive and reliable on the old Assistant. It's also slower and feels like a waste of resources to query an LLM for simple device and smart home commands

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                                        It's a terrible replacement for Assistant. It's just the wrong tool for the job. Assistant was listening for commands and trying to turn those into actions. Gemini takes a second, misses the first half of the command, tries to figure out if I'm conversing or giving an instruction, and it's hit or miss if it gets that right.

                                        If I ask "what's the weather today?" I have no idea if I'll get a forecast, the definition of the word weather, or the song "what's the weather like today" by the Kiboomers (which sounds like a cool indie band but in fact makes childrens early education songs).

                                        Does anyone know an open source alternative for Android? Preferably something that works with home assistant.

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                                          It's a terrible replacement for Assistant. It's just the wrong tool for the job. Assistant was listening for commands and trying to turn those into actions. Gemini takes a second, misses the first half of the command, tries to figure out if I'm conversing or giving an instruction, and it's hit or miss if it gets that right.

                                          If I ask "what's the weather today?" I have no idea if I'll get a forecast, the definition of the word weather, or the song "what's the weather like today" by the Kiboomers (which sounds like a cool indie band but in fact makes childrens early education songs).

                                          Does anyone know an open source alternative for Android? Preferably something that works with home assistant.

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                                          Home assistant does have voice, and they're trying out their own in home devices. It has an app for android and you can map your primary assistant to it

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