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Trump Signs Order Imposing 10 Percent Baseline Reciprocal Tariffs, 20 Percent On Imports From EU.

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  • N [email protected]

    Maybe the US will understand that these tariffs primarily do over thing: raise prices for their own citizens.

    Living in the EU, I'm looking forward to the non-tariffed Switch 2.

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    The issue might be that this isn't actually a negative for the Trumpists. They want to control their population and making everyone poorer actually helps with that. It could lead to a large-scale rebellion, but I think the conservative brainwashing is far along enough that most conservatives and especially the MAGAs will just ignore it.

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      20 percent on goods from the European Union, 25 percent on South Korean imports.

      Bit higher than expected, but not wholly unexpected either.

      34 percent on Chinese goods, 32 percent on Taiwanese imports

      Oof. That will tank the tech manufacturing industry. GPU card price will shoot through the roof.

      46 percent on Japanese products

      Holy shit! What did Japan do to deserve freaking 50% tarrifs? I knew there was some bad blood in the 80s and 90s but is it still the case now?

      I hope Nintendo stocked those Switch 2s everywhere ahead of time or it's gonna be rough.

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      Guess 1: calculation of trade deficit
      Guess 2: based on taxes and fines (like the EU has 19% sales taxes on all its products)

      Either way: Japan did nothing to deserve this, lower or higher tariffs isn’t because favourability (this time)

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        20 percent on goods from the European Union, 25 percent on South Korean imports.

        Bit higher than expected, but not wholly unexpected either.

        34 percent on Chinese goods, 32 percent on Taiwanese imports

        Oof. That will tank the tech manufacturing industry. GPU card price will shoot through the roof.

        46 percent on Japanese products

        Holy shit! What did Japan do to deserve freaking 50% tarrifs? I knew there was some bad blood in the 80s and 90s but is it still the case now?

        I hope Nintendo stocked those Switch 2s everywhere ahead of time or it's gonna be rough.

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        Oof. That will tank the tech manufacturing industry. GPU card price will shoot through the roof.

        Honest question: Why? Aren't these tariffs on US imports? And aren't most of them manufactured outside the USA anyway?

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          Guess 1: calculation of trade deficit
          Guess 2: based on taxes and fines (like the EU has 19% sales taxes on all its products)

          Either way: Japan did nothing to deserve this, lower or higher tariffs isn’t because favourability (this time)

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          Guess 1 is correct. Someone on Reddit figured it out. Formula is: deficit divided by total us exports then the resulting percentage is halvedm

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            Bring it on America. I do love seeing you punch yourself in the face.

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            ...and the rest of the world's faces while they're at it, unfortunately.

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              They aren't reciprocal tariffs. Reciprocal tariffs are matched to an existing tariff from the target nation. That's what reciprocal means.

              This idiot thinks trade is a zero sum game and therefore any import imbalance is theft.

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                Guess 1 is correct. Someone on Reddit figured it out. Formula is: deficit divided by total us exports then the resulting percentage is halvedm

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                Thanks!

                That makes total sense /s

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                  Bring it on America. I do love seeing you punch yourself in the face.

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                  America isn't punching itself, it's just the USA

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                    20 percent on goods from the European Union, 25 percent on South Korean imports.

                    Bit higher than expected, but not wholly unexpected either.

                    34 percent on Chinese goods, 32 percent on Taiwanese imports

                    Oof. That will tank the tech manufacturing industry. GPU card price will shoot through the roof.

                    46 percent on Japanese products

                    Holy shit! What did Japan do to deserve freaking 50% tarrifs? I knew there was some bad blood in the 80s and 90s but is it still the case now?

                    I hope Nintendo stocked those Switch 2s everywhere ahead of time or it's gonna be rough.

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                    30% against Switzerland. Even though we don't have any tariffs against the USA (except for agricultural products).

                    Wtf

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                      You have accumulated too many morons. Flee while you still can.

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                        30% against Switzerland. Even though we don't have any tariffs against the USA (except for agricultural products).

                        Wtf

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                        I guess the americans like their medicine even more expensive than the ridiculous profit margins our pharmaceuticals already claim?

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                          The Switch 2 is probably manufactured in China, so the 34% should apply, not the 46% from Japan, right? Not worst case but still ridiculous either way

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                          Is it fully manufactured in China, or is the final assembly done in Japan/somewhere else? Because that would change the tarrif.

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                            They aren't reciprocal tariffs. Reciprocal tariffs are matched to an existing tariff from the target nation. That's what reciprocal means.

                            This idiot thinks trade is a zero sum game and therefore any import imbalance is theft.

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                            trump literally doesn’t understand anything.

                            Take trade imbalances for a minute. As an contrived example, we buy $1m worth of steel from Canada, they buy $100k worth of steel from us.

                            There’s a $900k trade imbalance, and you can tell how trump talks about it, he thinks that means we just have $900k to Canada for fun.

                            He completely ignores the part where we traded $1m for $1m worth of steel. We get the fucking steel, it has value, we know it has value because we were willing to pay for it.

                            But just listen to him talk about trade, he doesn’t understand that basic component of trade. He thinks a $X trade imbalance means we just give that country $X for nothing. He is the dumbest motherfucking idiot on the planet.

                            We will all get to be that strange old person who won’t discard an orange peel because we lived through the second Great Depression.

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                              Oof. That will tank the tech manufacturing industry. GPU card price will shoot through the roof.

                              Honest question: Why? Aren't these tariffs on US imports? And aren't most of them manufactured outside the USA anyway?

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                              Supply chains are globalized. It just needs one step to be performed in the US (e.g to protect critical IP) for the tarrifs to be applied. Your comment prompted me to do a bit of research on Nvidia's supply chain, and here is what little I could find, a non-exhaustive list of suppliers.

                              You're right, it doesn't seem like they have parts done in US (mostly Taiwan, China, and Thailand), which should mean they are somewhat safe drom this. But depending on the reseller you buy from, if their distribution network goes through the US, you might still get those tarrifs applied back to you (even if you don't live there).

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                              • V [email protected]

                                Last time the US played this game, the great depression came about...

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                                Yea, and then the Republicans of the time last the House and Senate for 60 years...so...¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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                                  Yea, and then the Republicans of the time last the House and Senate for 60 years...so...¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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                                  I hope your're right about that again. Instead of an FDR you get a Bernie. Fuck... That would be great for the entire world.

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                                    trump literally doesn’t understand anything.

                                    Take trade imbalances for a minute. As an contrived example, we buy $1m worth of steel from Canada, they buy $100k worth of steel from us.

                                    There’s a $900k trade imbalance, and you can tell how trump talks about it, he thinks that means we just have $900k to Canada for fun.

                                    He completely ignores the part where we traded $1m for $1m worth of steel. We get the fucking steel, it has value, we know it has value because we were willing to pay for it.

                                    But just listen to him talk about trade, he doesn’t understand that basic component of trade. He thinks a $X trade imbalance means we just give that country $X for nothing. He is the dumbest motherfucking idiot on the planet.

                                    We will all get to be that strange old person who won’t discard an orange peel because we lived through the second Great Depression.

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                                    Pff, not me. I'm going to become a bank robber.

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                                    • V [email protected]

                                      Last time the US played this game, the great depression came about...

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                                      Actually, the did the tariffs in June 1930 when the depression was already happening. It was not the cause of the depression.

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