What would you do if you found out that your mother or sister was a sex worker?
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I don't doubt that's true, it's a really quick way for a women to make money if they're really desperate. I'd also assume it's less true as you move away from the streetwalkers.
And if you’re entirely aware and mentally stable and out of greed you open your legs and contribute to a society that commodifies everything including what should be an almost sacred union between two loving people, turning it into something bestial and transactional, then I judge that part of you negatively and I think for the sake of everyone you should stop. Certainly.
That's sounds pretty much like what I was raised with. First of all, welcome to Lemmy. You're going to have problems here as a Christian (evangelical?) conservative, but the downvotes can't hurt you.
I question that very narrow characterisation of human sexuality, and I question it very hard. It's not even in the Bible; the stories it tells involving sex have a much more feudal or tribal vibe to them. Song of Songs could be seen as a counterexample, but even there, the interpretation I was taught involved an arranged marriage to a powerful dictator.
I also question if someone else commodifying something somewhere actually hurts you or me. And if making rent, like the streetwalkers are, counts as greed.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Thank you for your kind words! And it doesn't have to be in the Bible when I have lived and I understand how vacuous sex without love is, for instance, and how damaging it can be for both parties involved (well, one I know by experience and the other by observation). Why would God want that for me? But Jesus was very much against it for instance ("your sins are forgiven" to the 'sinful woman' because there was something wrong there, not because there wasn't), and the Qur'an is thoroughly and consistently against turning sex into a banal experience as well.
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This is most often used against people asking in good faith in my experience than those who just want to troll people. In this case, the sealion is actually being perfectly acceptable, the first person doesn't get to slander a group of people without defending their slander to said group of people.
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This was reality for me. Grew up in a bad area in a one bedroom apartment with my single mom. She worked 2 jobs, one included being a stripper (also provided escort services to a few customers). I hated her job and I could tell she did too, but she did it to make ends meet so I had to come to terms with it.
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Thank you for your kind words! And it doesn't have to be in the Bible when I have lived and I understand how vacuous sex without love is, for instance, and how damaging it can be for both parties involved (well, one I know by experience and the other by observation). Why would God want that for me? But Jesus was very much against it for instance ("your sins are forgiven" to the 'sinful woman' because there was something wrong there, not because there wasn't), and the Qur'an is thoroughly and consistently against turning sex into a banal experience as well.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yeah, if my guess was wrong and you're actually Muslim, I don't know the whole doctrine. I know bits and pieces, and it seems a fair bit more self-consistent based on them, although also very, very at odds with modern attitudes about certain things I'm sure other Lemmings will eventually confront you with.
(Jesus was pretty emphatically against even divorce in the Bible, including in that parable, while protestants aren't necessarily. And the ones that do avoid it at all cost often end up in loveless marriages, which is definitely not great for your mental health, or that of your children)
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My fingers just type almost as fast as the thoughts come by, that's all. I wasn't really planning for anything besides giving an honest reply, lol.
Self-editing is other-care. Don't dump your adult-level responsibilities on the community. Do your own tailoring, admitted "argumentative" book club cultist. 🤌
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I would learn how to cross-post on Lemmy because it's an invaluable skill.
Since my mother or sister aren't sex workers, I guess I'm off the hook, no matter how valuable a skill cross-posting is.
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Of course it does. Things are dirty and people need to clean them, people like clean spaces invariably, wouldn't we both say it's a net positive for society? The worst of janitors is the one keeping things tidy in the CIA offices for instance, letting these monsters cook their next psy-op, lol, but even then their impact is negligible in the success of the war machine. When it comes to themselves, as long as they're protected from dangerous materials, they should be fine physically. Is it harmful for their psyche to clean? Maybe without good music
but not as much as opening your legs to random men who use you basically as a disposable masturbatory aid several times a day. Breaking the link between love, commitment and sex is not just a big taboo, but it's (more importantly) psychologically damaging, and whatever ideology you have to create to stomach it (plus whatever bad habits regarding substances you might have developed trying to cope with it all) will have to be disposed of before developing an actual connection with another human being/re-entering society. You can't get there just by sweeping floors, and to even mention otherwise is either foolish or a statement made in bad faith, but I entertained it because it could be the former.Listen, besides the fact that it's just 'socially transgressive', the biggest sin behind prostitution is the sin of self-harm. That's all. Morally, if we're discussing the global ramifications of ones actions, it's way better to be a prostitute with 50 clients a day for years (as long as you're clean, ofc) than an IDF soldier for one day, or even an investment banker. But to say self-harm is okay because "their body, their rules" and it makes them money is a product of moral relativity and ideological confusion.
You need to balance the harm caused by allowing people to engage in self-harm with the harm imposed by removing someone's freedom of choice. If God Himself thought it was important for us to have free will, what right do you or I have to remove it?
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You need to balance the harm caused by allowing people to engage in self-harm with the harm imposed by removing someone's freedom of choice. If God Himself thought it was important for us to have free will, what right do you or I have to remove it?
wrote last edited by [email protected]I could never, as in I certainly don't have any capacity to do so. Expressing my opinion publicly is not a restraint on your will, lol. Maybe if I came to your house and kidnapped you but not just me yapping online!
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Self-editing is other-care. Don't dump your adult-level responsibilities on the community. Do your own tailoring, admitted "argumentative" book club cultist. 🤌
Now, fuck off.Trust me, everything I said was what I meant and if I feel something needs correcting and I catch it I do it. And there's no need for this reaction...
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I will say I appreciate that you asked a hypothetical open-ended question for a change.
