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Next Xbox Rumors Surface; No Devkits Available to Developers Yet (aiming for 2027); EDIT: And new handheld later this year

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    From Jez Corden. Further supporting the idea that the next Xbox is just a PC with a custom shell, which is about the only way a new Xbox makes sense anyway.

    EDIT: Also from Jez Corden, Xbox handheld coming later this year.

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      From Jez Corden. Further supporting the idea that the next Xbox is just a PC with a custom shell, which is about the only way a new Xbox makes sense anyway.

      EDIT: Also from Jez Corden, Xbox handheld coming later this year.

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      Xbox lost the console wars and is retreating to PC. This makes sense

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        From Jez Corden. Further supporting the idea that the next Xbox is just a PC with a custom shell, which is about the only way a new Xbox makes sense anyway.

        EDIT: Also from Jez Corden, Xbox handheld coming later this year.

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        A windows PC with a custom shell is surprisingly good for gaming. I modified my gaming machine to skip sign in, windows explorer, and a multitude of other services so it boots straight into steam big picture. My Epic, EA, and gamepass games are automatically added to Steam with proper artwork. Feels like SteamOS but with some nice things from windows like working anricheat and lossless scaling support.

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          From Jez Corden. Further supporting the idea that the next Xbox is just a PC with a custom shell, which is about the only way a new Xbox makes sense anyway.

          EDIT: Also from Jez Corden, Xbox handheld coming later this year.

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          Why do they want Microsoft to overhaul the controller? There’s literally no reason to, and the way they’re writing it really does just read as “because I want something different.“They’ve stuck with the same design since 360 more or less with small changes for a reason. It’s a fantastically designed controller

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            Xbox lost the console wars and is retreating to PC. This makes sense

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            No love lost with Xbox/m$ but this is going to make Sony even more insufferable lol I can’t believe they had the stones to release the pro and basically go “it’ll do 4K60 for real this time we promise.”

            Imagine paying $200-$300 more for the promise of what the old machine was supposed to do. Baffling. They even tried to say the original PS5 would run 8K!

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              No love lost with Xbox/m$ but this is going to make Sony even more insufferable lol I can’t believe they had the stones to release the pro and basically go “it’ll do 4K60 for real this time we promise.”

              Imagine paying $200-$300 more for the promise of what the old machine was supposed to do. Baffling. They even tried to say the original PS5 would run 8K!

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              Sony's not doing great right now either. They're either matching or several million units behind where they were with the PS4 at the same point in the console generation; given that their closest competition has been decimated, that's not great for them. They don't make games as quickly as they used to, which means they don't make as many as they used to, and their margins are slimmer on their successes while the failures like Concord and PSVR2 hurt more. Both of those consoles are rapidly headed toward a future that only looks like personal computers for high-end gaming. Nintendo is at least mostly immune to this for at least the Switch 2 generation.

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                Why do they want Microsoft to overhaul the controller? There’s literally no reason to, and the way they’re writing it really does just read as “because I want something different.“They’ve stuck with the same design since 360 more or less with small changes for a reason. It’s a fantastically designed controller

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                Gyro support wouldn't hurt.

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                  Gyro support wouldn't hurt.

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                  Love that for others but I never use it except for Mario Galaxy with my kid lol

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                    Love that for others but I never use it except for Mario Galaxy with my kid lol

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                    Did Mario Galaxy use gyroscopic controls? I thought it just used the IR sensor. If I'm correct, these are two different things. If you've played Splatoon with the gyro controls, you might see the benefit. Alternately, you can do this with Steam input on just about anything if you have a controller with the feature.

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                      Did Mario Galaxy use gyroscopic controls? I thought it just used the IR sensor. If I'm correct, these are two different things. If you've played Splatoon with the gyro controls, you might see the benefit. Alternately, you can do this with Steam input on just about anything if you have a controller with the feature.

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                      Switch version (3D all stars) uses gyroscopic controls. No IR/light bar and such .

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                        Switch version (3D all stars) uses gyroscopic controls. No IR/light bar and such .

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                        Gotcha. It still might not be the best sample set for getting a feel for what the controls have to offer, if you have the means to give it a try in other games. I think it's better at aiming/shooting than the right analog stick has ever been.

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                          How do you skip sign in? That’s the single worst feature in windows.

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                            Gotcha. It still might not be the best sample set for getting a feel for what the controls have to offer, if you have the means to give it a try in other games. I think it's better at aiming/shooting than the right analog stick has ever been.

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                            I guess I’m just not really looking for a competitive edge and don’t really feel like moving my wrists and hands around that much. Part of what I like about controllers is that it’s very easy on my wrists. But I totally get why people want that!

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                              I guess I’m just not really looking for a competitive edge and don’t really feel like moving my wrists and hands around that much. Part of what I like about controllers is that it’s very easy on my wrists. But I totally get why people want that!

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                              Not even a competitive edge, as I don't really play multiplayer shooters anymore. It just feels more intuitive (though some additional bothersome setup is often required to tune it right). You can also move it via your elbows rather than wrists. But in any case, gyro would be nice to have in Xbox controllers. I found playing something like Returnal on an analog stick to be a huge pain, and it's great when you can get that extra oomph out of your input device.

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                                Not even a competitive edge, as I don't really play multiplayer shooters anymore. It just feels more intuitive (though some additional bothersome setup is often required to tune it right). You can also move it via your elbows rather than wrists. But in any case, gyro would be nice to have in Xbox controllers. I found playing something like Returnal on an analog stick to be a huge pain, and it's great when you can get that extra oomph out of your input device.

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                                I also have shoulder issues 😅

                                Anyway I feel you. I know a lot of people like to have that as an option

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                                  Why do they want Microsoft to overhaul the controller? There’s literally no reason to, and the way they’re writing it really does just read as “because I want something different.“They’ve stuck with the same design since 360 more or less with small changes for a reason. It’s a fantastically designed controller

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                                  Gyroscope and back buttons would be nice. Maybe even a touch sensitive stick like the steam deck has. I like the shape and layout of the Xbox controllers, but they really lag behind feature wise.

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                                    Did Mario Galaxy use gyroscopic controls? I thought it just used the IR sensor. If I'm correct, these are two different things. If you've played Splatoon with the gyro controls, you might see the benefit. Alternately, you can do this with Steam input on just about anything if you have a controller with the feature.

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                                    The Nintendo Wii used gyroscopic controls (first gen original controllers only had accelerometers. The Wii Motion Plus add-on added gyroscopes, but later controllers integrated both into a single unit). The IR bar was just for the Wii controller to figure out which detection was towards the TV.

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                                      Gyroscope and back buttons would be nice. Maybe even a touch sensitive stick like the steam deck has. I like the shape and layout of the Xbox controllers, but they really lag behind feature wise.

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                                      I just don’t miss those features I guess!

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                                        Sony's not doing great right now either. They're either matching or several million units behind where they were with the PS4 at the same point in the console generation; given that their closest competition has been decimated, that's not great for them. They don't make games as quickly as they used to, which means they don't make as many as they used to, and their margins are slimmer on their successes while the failures like Concord and PSVR2 hurt more. Both of those consoles are rapidly headed toward a future that only looks like personal computers for high-end gaming. Nintendo is at least mostly immune to this for at least the Switch 2 generation.

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                                        Ask and ye shall receive

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                                          Ask and ye shall receive

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                                          That's comparing Pro to Pro. I meant all PS5s were trailing behind all PS4s by several million units at the same point in time as of a few months ago. Allegedly, after that report was published, Sony had their best PlayStation quarter ever, but I don't remember if they disclosed which metric they were measuring that in, and there's a good chance their best quarter ever still didn't make up that deficit.

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