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Marine Le Pen banned from running for public office after guilty verdict

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  • N [email protected]

    Exactly what needs to happen. Keep these monsters away from positions of power over others.

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    Sure, but it needs to be because she actually committed a crime, not as a convenient way just to block someone you think might win from running. I am going to assume in this case she is guilty and was found guilty fairly.

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      I wish we could do that in the USA. Must be nice to have a functional government.

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        I think there are enough qualified people to be president in the all of 350 million in the states that it's OK if we disqualify people who've been convicted of a felony.

        I think democracy would survive if not thrive.

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        So, you know how Erdogan recently threw bogus charges at a candidate and revoked the guy's degree to make him ineligible? That's why banning people with criminal records isn't a good idea; the current government can just bar the opposition from running.

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          So, you know how Erdogan recently threw bogus charges at a candidate and revoked the guy's degree to make him ineligible? That's why banning people with criminal records isn't a good idea; the current government can just bar the opposition from running.

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          My guess would be you're already long fucked when that becomes the case. There may be obstacles and exceptions needed but I still wouldn't dismiss the idea.

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            Not to defend Le Pen but barring opponents from elections is on page one of the fascist playbook.

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              Not to defend Le Pen but barring opponents from elections is on page one of the fascist playbook.

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              She got convicted of embezzlement of public money. By a court. Not by another political party.

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                Not to defend Le Pen but barring opponents from elections is on page one of the fascist playbook.

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                French courts are independent. She will appeal, and another court will condemn her and her friends in appeal.

                The evidence is multitudinous and straightforward.

                Countries that have special rules for powerful people are the fascist ones.

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                  She got convicted of embezzlement of public money. By a court. Not by another political party.

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                  Yep but that's what Putin also says before throwing people in jail.

                  Courts can be corrupted and if that happens, an open election is the last chance before full dictatorship ensues.

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                    When convicted for embezzlement, someone should NEVER be allowed to run for government offices ever again

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                    Funnily enough, when the law was introduced a few years ago, her party wanted the penalty to be lifelong ineligibility. They are probably happy it's 5 years, now.

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                      Fuck its only for 5 years.

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                      She was pushing for lifetime bans... When it wasn't her.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        I don't have an issue with a public servant holding office and having a criminal record. People make mistakes, and people can change. However, I think the fact the current president has made public and copious comments about dismantling the democracy that exists while showing a blatant disdain for the rights of people, that I have an issue with.

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                        I’m very much in favor of felons having access to work, but that doesn’t necessarily mean equal access to every single form of work, and I’d be quite content to ban them from the highest office in the land.

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                          Yep but that's what Putin also says before throwing people in jail.

                          Courts can be corrupted and if that happens, an open election is the last chance before full dictatorship ensues.

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                          Bro, are you fighting this with whataboutism and false equivalency ? Troll detected opinion rejected

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                            Yep but that's what Putin also says before throwing people in jail.

                            Courts can be corrupted and if that happens, an open election is the last chance before full dictatorship ensues.

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                            What you are suggesting is even more dangerous though. Law immunity for politicians is even worse

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                              This is honestly a fantastic development. Vive la République!

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                                Yep but that's what Putin also says before throwing people in jail.

                                Courts can be corrupted and if that happens, an open election is the last chance before full dictatorship ensues.

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                                And your evidence for the bold claim that the French justice system has been corrupted enough to fabricate and enter false evidence and land a conviction?

                                What about evidence that french media freedoms have been suppressed so badly that every single news agency has been intimidated into not revealing leaked evidence of fabrication?

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                                  Not to defend Le Pen but barring opponents from elections is on page one of the fascist playbook.

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                                  I guess Germany is fascist for banning the nazi party then? 🤔

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                                    Yep but that's what Putin also says before throwing people in jail.

                                    Courts can be corrupted and if that happens, an open election is the last chance before full dictatorship ensues.

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                                    Holy mother of false equivalence.

                                    So what’s the alternative then? Just let politicians get away with crimes and elect them anyway? Because that doesn’t seem to be going too well for the US.

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                                      So presidential! She could be our new president here in the US! Imagine that! First Felon woman president!

                                      Man! We're busting glass ceilings!

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                                        Common French W.

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                                          Not to defend Le Pen but barring opponents from elections is on page one of the fascist playbook.

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                                          Her dad is a Holocaust denier and founded Frances’s National Front, joked about needing “another batch for the oven” in response to a Jewish musician criticizing him. That family needed to be driven out of politics decades ago. Tolerating intolerance is stupid.

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