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I've been told that I "bottle things up and then explode". How do you not "explode"?

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    First, don't tell me that the answer is just to "not bottle things up", because that's objectively incorrect too. Society doesn't want you to have any negative emotions. I need to know how to not express negative emotions at all whatsoever unless I'm alone. I know it can be done because it is done in many other people on the planet.

    Edit: Ok so I think one of the things I want to try doing next is ask for a med change from my psych provider.

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    It's corny and is championed by some shit heads but Meditations by Marcus Aurelius helped me to figure out how mentally center myself during tribulations.

    Link to Internet Archive

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    • D [email protected]

      First, don't tell me that the answer is just to "not bottle things up", because that's objectively incorrect too. Society doesn't want you to have any negative emotions. I need to know how to not express negative emotions at all whatsoever unless I'm alone. I know it can be done because it is done in many other people on the planet.

      Edit: Ok so I think one of the things I want to try doing next is ask for a med change from my psych provider.

      usernameblankface@lemmy.worldU This user is from outside of this forum
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      This is a question for a therapist. So my answer is, whenever you have an open mind to the idea of being uncomfortable in order to grow, start researching therapists.

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      • misterneon@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

        It's corny and is championed by some shit heads but Meditations by Marcus Aurelius helped me to figure out how mentally center myself during tribulations.

        Link to Internet Archive

        cacti@ani.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        It`s also on Standard Ebooks.

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        • D [email protected]

          First, don't tell me that the answer is just to "not bottle things up", because that's objectively incorrect too. Society doesn't want you to have any negative emotions. I need to know how to not express negative emotions at all whatsoever unless I'm alone. I know it can be done because it is done in many other people on the planet.

          Edit: Ok so I think one of the things I want to try doing next is ask for a med change from my psych provider.

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          First, don’t tell me that the answer is just to “not bottle things up”, because that’s objectively incorrect too.

          Well, no, it's not objectively incorrect. I get the sense that the main problem you have is communicating negative emotions without being overly confrontational or acerbic about it. My experience is that it's very possible to tell someone you're unhappy about something without making a major deal out of it.

          Also, I'm curious about how often you find yourself in the situation we're taking about. Everybody had occasions where they have to vent frustrating, but if that's a super frequency occurrence, there might be something else going on. Sometimes it should be enough to take a deep breath, recognize that the issue is minor, and let it go.

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          • D [email protected]

            First, don't tell me that the answer is just to "not bottle things up", because that's objectively incorrect too. Society doesn't want you to have any negative emotions. I need to know how to not express negative emotions at all whatsoever unless I'm alone. I know it can be done because it is done in many other people on the planet.

            Edit: Ok so I think one of the things I want to try doing next is ask for a med change from my psych provider.

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            I recently took an anger management class. That might be a good place to start for you. One of the takeaways I got was that it's ok to have anger, but you need to learn and use different techniques for managing it.

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            • cacti@ani.socialC [email protected]

              It`s also on Standard Ebooks.

              misterneon@lemmy.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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              Yo I've never heard of this site. The older I get the more I like public domain media. Thanks for showing me this.

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              • D [email protected]

                First, don't tell me that the answer is just to "not bottle things up", because that's objectively incorrect too. Society doesn't want you to have any negative emotions. I need to know how to not express negative emotions at all whatsoever unless I'm alone. I know it can be done because it is done in many other people on the planet.

                Edit: Ok so I think one of the things I want to try doing next is ask for a med change from my psych provider.

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                I think it’s more of finding ways to express negative emotions in a healthier/safer way, and not necessarily just suppressing it.

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                • D [email protected]

                  First, don't tell me that the answer is just to "not bottle things up", because that's objectively incorrect too. Society doesn't want you to have any negative emotions. I need to know how to not express negative emotions at all whatsoever unless I'm alone. I know it can be done because it is done in many other people on the planet.

                  Edit: Ok so I think one of the things I want to try doing next is ask for a med change from my psych provider.

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                  I would suggest that you try to process those swallowed emotions at a later time. Ask yourself why these things bother you, can you let them go, do you need an outlet to relieve them. Maybe you can relieve that pressure before you blow.

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                  • misterneon@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                    Yo I've never heard of this site. The older I get the more I like public domain media. Thanks for showing me this.

                    cacti@ani.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    No problem :). Standard Ebooks fixes many mistakes present in the Gutenberg&/archive.org versions of public domain e-books so it‘s definitely a better choice. The only issue with it is that its library is much smaller compared to Gutenberg.

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                      First, don’t tell me that the answer is just to “not bottle things up”, because that’s objectively incorrect too.

                      Well, no, it's not objectively incorrect. I get the sense that the main problem you have is communicating negative emotions without being overly confrontational or acerbic about it. My experience is that it's very possible to tell someone you're unhappy about something without making a major deal out of it.

                      Also, I'm curious about how often you find yourself in the situation we're taking about. Everybody had occasions where they have to vent frustrating, but if that's a super frequency occurrence, there might be something else going on. Sometimes it should be enough to take a deep breath, recognize that the issue is minor, and let it go.

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                      It is not super common, but it's common enough that my friend takes notice. The issue is that I occasionally explode at work which is not good for my job security. Generally if someone is being mean to me or my fellow coworkers I get upset. My supervisor is also a huge bitch who is rude and mean to everyone and I have a hard time dealing with her at times. Most of the times I am able to shut up, but sometimes I get upset with people like that and I react inappropriately.

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                      • usernameblankface@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                        This is a question for a therapist. So my answer is, whenever you have an open mind to the idea of being uncomfortable in order to grow, start researching therapists.

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                        Yeah so someone had recommended that I see a therapist. I just started seeing a practitioner who can give me psych meds, but my work schedule is a bit too unstable to start with a therapist at the moment. (will take several weeks for me to finalize my schedule) I have seen therapists in the past but never knew what to talk about, but it was brought to my attention that this is an issue I need to address.

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                        • L [email protected]

                          I would suggest that you try to process those swallowed emotions at a later time. Ask yourself why these things bother you, can you let them go, do you need an outlet to relieve them. Maybe you can relieve that pressure before you blow.

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                          I do not have any helpful outlets. The things that people say are outlets don't work for me.

                          Running? I do it. Doesn't help. I ruminate during a run.

                          Venting to a friend? Doesn't help. I feel guilty for bothering them, they get frustrated with me for bothering them, and it's wrong to do that to people who have busy lives and their own problems.

                          Venting to ChatGPT? Occasionally will help a little bit, but usually does not help. It's not a real person and does not understand me, but prevents me from harming others by venting to them. Also helps me ruminate on my problems.

                          Writing down my thoughts? Doesn't help. It makes me ruminate.

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                          • D [email protected]

                            It is not super common, but it's common enough that my friend takes notice. The issue is that I occasionally explode at work which is not good for my job security. Generally if someone is being mean to me or my fellow coworkers I get upset. My supervisor is also a huge bitch who is rude and mean to everyone and I have a hard time dealing with her at times. Most of the times I am able to shut up, but sometimes I get upset with people like that and I react inappropriately.

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                            I have a pretty stressful job. I've been doing it for almost twenty years. I have not "exploded at work" once. Not ever.

                            This isn't an "expressing emotions isn't okay" problem, man.

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                            • D [email protected]

                              First, don't tell me that the answer is just to "not bottle things up", because that's objectively incorrect too. Society doesn't want you to have any negative emotions. I need to know how to not express negative emotions at all whatsoever unless I'm alone. I know it can be done because it is done in many other people on the planet.

                              Edit: Ok so I think one of the things I want to try doing next is ask for a med change from my psych provider.

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                              First, don't tell me that the answer is just to "not bottle things up", because that's objectively incorrect too. Society doesn't want you to have any negative emotions.

                              I'm guessing you're a man. Society imposes this upon men in particular.

                              Tell society to fuck off. Have emotions, experience emotions, and process them like a human being.

                              Then take it a step further, and learn how to handle them like an emotionally intelligent human being.

                              I need to know how to not express negative emotions at all whatsoever unless I'm alone.

                              This is part of the problem. This is not what you need to know. You need to know how to express negative emotions without losing control of yourself or your reaction to your emotions.

                              I know it can be done because it is done in many other people on the planet.

                              People bottling things up and exploding when in a safe space is part of the problem.

                              I'll echo the idea of anger management, or even therapy in general.

                              Nobody who is healthy hides away their emotions. You're not alone in feeling the way you do. Society is sending you signals that you need to do something unhealthy, but that won't actually fix the problem.

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                              • D [email protected]

                                I do not have any helpful outlets. The things that people say are outlets don't work for me.

                                Running? I do it. Doesn't help. I ruminate during a run.

                                Venting to a friend? Doesn't help. I feel guilty for bothering them, they get frustrated with me for bothering them, and it's wrong to do that to people who have busy lives and their own problems.

                                Venting to ChatGPT? Occasionally will help a little bit, but usually does not help. It's not a real person and does not understand me, but prevents me from harming others by venting to them. Also helps me ruminate on my problems.

                                Writing down my thoughts? Doesn't help. It makes me ruminate.

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                                Have you tried primal screaming?

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                                • misterneon@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                  It's corny and is championed by some shit heads but Meditations by Marcus Aurelius helped me to figure out how mentally center myself during tribulations.

                                  Link to Internet Archive

                                  tundra@sh.itjust.worksT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  There's nothing corny about stoicism, as long as you see through the people trying to monetise it.

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                                  • D [email protected]

                                    First, don't tell me that the answer is just to "not bottle things up", because that's objectively incorrect too. Society doesn't want you to have any negative emotions. I need to know how to not express negative emotions at all whatsoever unless I'm alone. I know it can be done because it is done in many other people on the planet.

                                    Edit: Ok so I think one of the things I want to try doing next is ask for a med change from my psych provider.

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                                    The trick is having people with whom it is safe to voice negative thoughts and opinions. Generally it's the same people who confide in you. There are also other ways to vent that pressure a little bit in the short term, but expressing that negativity to other people is not really replacable.

                                    For guys (as I assume you are), this can be very hard to find, or to build these kinds of relationships for cultural reasons, but it is fundamentally necessary to being an emotionally healthy person.

                                    You voice the small negatives on an ongoing basis so they don't pile up to the point that they're explosive.

                                    Getting a therapist, so you have someone you're paying to hear your negative thoughts and feelings can make it easier to start. Its often hardest at the beginning because when you first start voicing the things you've bottled up ongoing, the intensity will generally be higher than is pleasant for people to be around, and you kinda have to let off enough emotional pressure for a while before the intensity comes down. A therapist could be helpful in doing that without having to unpack the culturally ingrained masculine discomfort with vulnerable or uncomfortable emotions (in some ways, in other ways therapy is harder. But it's private and comes without the normal social expectations of being positive)

                                    Good luck! This is a really hard thing to work through for a lot of men, as a society we really set men up to fail in this way

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      First, don't tell me that the answer is just to "not bottle things up", because that's objectively incorrect too. Society doesn't want you to have any negative emotions. I need to know how to not express negative emotions at all whatsoever unless I'm alone. I know it can be done because it is done in many other people on the planet.

                                      Edit: Ok so I think one of the things I want to try doing next is ask for a med change from my psych provider.

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                                      What is this 'society' nonsense? You can express your desires and feelings without having to explode, that's the solution. And when you eventually do, because you're human and mistakes will happen, apologise profusely and understand "the work" is not yet done. Also whatever you propose is not only a denial of your own humanity, in vain and for your own detriment (and immature too, which is not a good look!), but also the kind of things dudes try before they shoot up churches and festivals.

                                      You are human, after all, a social animal. You're gonna have to open up as calmly as you can when the situation calls for it, instead of not saying anything because you don't feel brave enough to be vulnerable (maybe you feel like the people around you will only misunderstand you and make it worse?), so resentment doesn't add up in the background and you don't end up exploding. And I'm not just preaching here, I'm speaking from experience!

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                                      • D [email protected]

                                        First, don't tell me that the answer is just to "not bottle things up", because that's objectively incorrect too. Society doesn't want you to have any negative emotions. I need to know how to not express negative emotions at all whatsoever unless I'm alone. I know it can be done because it is done in many other people on the planet.

                                        Edit: Ok so I think one of the things I want to try doing next is ask for a med change from my psych provider.

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                                        1. You need to voice your concerns when they actually come up. The idea that showing emotions is objectively bad is completely false.
                                        2. You need to learn how to phrase negative comments with a neutral tone. You should not be describing anyone as mean, rude, bitch. Especially not your coworkers. Do you mean straightforward? Concerned? Talkative? Direct? Extroverted? Confident?
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                                        • D [email protected]

                                          It is not super common, but it's common enough that my friend takes notice. The issue is that I occasionally explode at work which is not good for my job security. Generally if someone is being mean to me or my fellow coworkers I get upset. My supervisor is also a huge bitch who is rude and mean to everyone and I have a hard time dealing with her at times. Most of the times I am able to shut up, but sometimes I get upset with people like that and I react inappropriately.

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                                          Sounds stressful for you and for the folks around you.

                                          I think you're going to find that most people don't have great advice for how to do it because it's not something they've struggled to overcome. There might be people here who have that issue or one similar enough, and overcome it, so they can tell you how they did. But your better bet is going to be to look into some kind of anger management techniques.

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