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Man fucks up longtime relationship. Friends don't succeed in keeping him from drunk-posting to try fixing it. Onlookers feel only scorn.

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    He's basically openly saying the US is trying to be like China when it comes to manufacturing (even though there is no possibility the US could compete due to extremely high labor costs)

    Not to mention he's backpedaling from kicking out the specialized employees there to build the EV factory. American employees were going to be trained to build the EVs, but there is no need for Americans to need to learn how to build a specialized Hyundai factory. Absolutely no excuse for this other than incompetence

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    no possibility the US could compete due to extremely high labor costs

    High labor costs and environmental regulations ... both of which MAGA is speed-racing getting rid of. If we actually end up being able to compete with China again in manufacturing, we'll be (even more) utterly fucked (than we already are).

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      “Defund”? Holy shit, they’re really completely fucking stupid haha.

      And the best part is that we all know a tonne of people who have these views. We can pretend that these people are actually Russian spies or whatever but at some point we need to accept that Conservatives the world over genuinely are just stupid, angry, and short-sighted. It’s their entire MO.

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      But there is also the uncomfortable thought that all the education hasn't helped the left leaning people to organise a better future.

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        But there is also the uncomfortable thought that all the education hasn't helped the left leaning people to organise a better future.

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        I don't know what you expect left leaning people to do with the rest of you working against us.

        Capitalism enables the rich to implement policies to ensure they have all the power. Education won't fix regulatory capture.

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          “Disincentivize”?

          Ghost writer.

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          Yeah I wonder who actually wrote this

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            So he wants to get other countries to bring their business here but also wants the foreign experts to piss off after teaching the US citizens how to do their jobs. He also, in the same post, tells them how the US will then beat them at their own game after they need to be taught how to play because they couldn’t figure it out on their own.

            I’ll rewrite it for whoever actually wrote this: “We suck, and we can’t build talent domestically. The plan is to get foreigners(who, I would like to remind everyone, we do not want here longterm) to teach us how to do things because we cannot understand it on our own. Then we will quickly become better than them somehow.”

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            but also wants the foreign experts to piss off after teaching the US citizens how to do their jobs.

            It's worse than this. We will steal your technology and cut you out of your business with our totally not idiocracy workforce, that must swear loyalty to the king to have their jobs. So fuck your business and trust in that our idiocracy will make your US operations execute as you hope.

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              This looks so fake if this was a real president with a brain. Instead this is a actual post from the bag of skin in the whitehouse.

              He is such an embarassing crybaby. No other country is going to work with us and manufacturing is done in the US. He has ruined all our international relationships in less than 6 months and now is trying to gain them back by being an asshole?

              Please someone, make it make sense.

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                Who wrote this? It certainly wasn't Trump

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                  I don't know what you expect left leaning people to do with the rest of you working against us.

                  Capitalism enables the rich to implement policies to ensure they have all the power. Education won't fix regulatory capture.

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                  Most people just do whatever everybody else does. How come the rich can manipulate the masses if most creative people are left leaning? Regulatory capture is one thing, but if some bureaucrats can organise a regime change then all the left leaning people should be able to improve the situation.

                  To be fair, they already do. But whatever is, seems to be far away from what the left wants.

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                    But there is also the uncomfortable thought that all the education hasn't helped the left leaning people to organise a better future.

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                    Is it uncomfortable? Around the world “the right” is either already fascist or steadily(and happily) moving towards it while centrism is constantly constantly trying to pretend that everything is ok and that half-ass, less scary changes are implemented in place of better, full-fat ones which may alienate the right-wing voters who are increasingly calling for killing anyone who is slightly against them. The center also runs nearly entirely on “we aren’t the right” and people fall for it all the time.

                    Smart people know how to make shit work, and they know that because their education allows to perform studies to show that these things work but you try to get a bike lane installed in North America and see what happens. Facts don’t matter to way too many people and so many are also so poor that being deathly afraid of the threat of a teething period is not even wholly unreasonable, as much as we do need to just rip that bandaid off(and usually it just means taxing the rich and not the poor but again, try telling that to people who get their news from Facebook propaganda pages).

                    And if you’re saying that US Democrats are “the left” then we can’t even have this conversation until that’s sorted out.

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                      Why would a company send people over to teach us how to do shit only to leave later on? Also why did you let ICE go after that Hyundai plant if t his was your goal...

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                        Most people just do whatever everybody else does. How come the rich can manipulate the masses if most creative people are left leaning? Regulatory capture is one thing, but if some bureaucrats can organise a regime change then all the left leaning people should be able to improve the situation.

                        To be fair, they already do. But whatever is, seems to be far away from what the left wants.

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                        How come the rich can manipulate the masses if most creative people are left leaning?

                        Money, specifically propaganda. Humans will believe anything if it is repeated enough times. A collective of broke anarchist artists will never reach as many people as a billionaire funded think tank and advertising agencies.

                        if some bureaucrats can organise a regime change then all the left leaning people should be able to improve the situation

                        This is an odd "if". If you're referencing something, I don't get it. Generally regime change is carried out by men with guns (far too often backed by the United States).

                        My question was "What do you expect left leaning people to do". If you don't have anything more specific than "improve the situation", neither does anyone else. That is not terribly actionable.

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                          How come the rich can manipulate the masses if most creative people are left leaning?

                          Money, specifically propaganda. Humans will believe anything if it is repeated enough times. A collective of broke anarchist artists will never reach as many people as a billionaire funded think tank and advertising agencies.

                          if some bureaucrats can organise a regime change then all the left leaning people should be able to improve the situation

                          This is an odd "if". If you're referencing something, I don't get it. Generally regime change is carried out by men with guns (far too often backed by the United States).

                          My question was "What do you expect left leaning people to do". If you don't have anything more specific than "improve the situation", neither does anyone else. That is not terribly actionable.

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                          A collective of broke anarchist artists will never reach as many people as a billionaire funded think tank

                          The internet makes that possible. It's not a resource problem.

                          Generally regime change is carried out by men with guns

                          Somebody motivated them.

                          That is not terribly actionable.

                          People with education should come up with their own plans. That's the uncomfortable part.

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                            Is it uncomfortable? Around the world “the right” is either already fascist or steadily(and happily) moving towards it while centrism is constantly constantly trying to pretend that everything is ok and that half-ass, less scary changes are implemented in place of better, full-fat ones which may alienate the right-wing voters who are increasingly calling for killing anyone who is slightly against them. The center also runs nearly entirely on “we aren’t the right” and people fall for it all the time.

                            Smart people know how to make shit work, and they know that because their education allows to perform studies to show that these things work but you try to get a bike lane installed in North America and see what happens. Facts don’t matter to way too many people and so many are also so poor that being deathly afraid of the threat of a teething period is not even wholly unreasonable, as much as we do need to just rip that bandaid off(and usually it just means taxing the rich and not the poor but again, try telling that to people who get their news from Facebook propaganda pages).

                            And if you’re saying that US Democrats are “the left” then we can’t even have this conversation until that’s sorted out.

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                            Facts don’t matter to way too many people

                            That's where all the students who didn't study STEM should bring their skills.

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                              Facts don’t matter to way too many people

                              That's where all the students who didn't study STEM should bring their skills.

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                              What? Are you trying to say that people who didn’t study STEM don’t care about facts? Some of the dumbest, mosy socially inept people I know are varying types of engineers. Or do you mean that people who didn’t study STEM need to market facts better because STEM people can’t do that for themselves? What are you saying?

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                                What? Are you trying to say that people who didn’t study STEM don’t care about facts? Some of the dumbest, mosy socially inept people I know are varying types of engineers. Or do you mean that people who didn’t study STEM need to market facts better because STEM people can’t do that for themselves? What are you saying?

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                                The non STEM fields cover the understanding of humanity. Art, psychology, social science, language. They know how to convince humans without facts.

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                                  Ha. Doesn’t matter. Stephen Miller is the man in charge now; he played Trump so well, and now he’s calling the shots. Trump is all but irrelevant now.

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                                    The non STEM fields cover the understanding of humanity. Art, psychology, social science, language. They know how to convince humans without facts.

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                                    But also you’re trying to say that education hasn’t helped? Also those fields aren’t exactly teaching “how to convince people without facts” though I might agree that there is a level of understanding human relationships that goes on, to varying degrees, with some of them. The psychologists and social science people may have an edge, though either people refuse to listen to them flat-out or they refuse to engage in blatant progaganda.

                                    It doesn’t help that “the left” in the US is a Democrat party full of centrists and conservatives who absolutely do not care. They don’t even want to do what’s best for people in the first place, and they have some hard-coded rules for themselves that are much harder to break through than just busting out you social sciences wand and casting a spell.

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                                      But also you’re trying to say that education hasn’t helped? Also those fields aren’t exactly teaching “how to convince people without facts” though I might agree that there is a level of understanding human relationships that goes on, to varying degrees, with some of them. The psychologists and social science people may have an edge, though either people refuse to listen to them flat-out or they refuse to engage in blatant progaganda.

                                      It doesn’t help that “the left” in the US is a Democrat party full of centrists and conservatives who absolutely do not care. They don’t even want to do what’s best for people in the first place, and they have some hard-coded rules for themselves that are much harder to break through than just busting out you social sciences wand and casting a spell.

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                                      In the US there are 4 million graduates each year. Let's assume there are 10,000 left leaning students with a degree each year. They don't have to break into anything, they could be their own thing.

                                      If it takes blatant propaganda to prevent fascism, why would that be off limit? There are enough people to organise change but for them, the most reasonable thing to do is to get a job. It's beautiful how fragile the system is defended, but also how effective it is.

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