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Firefox, Plex, Google Drive, Google Maps, Honey, BetterHelp, VPNs

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  • gerald_eliasweb@reddthat.comG [email protected]
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    Firefox? Aren't they just getting anonymous telemetry and setting the default search engine to Google? I know they changed their TOS in the past but how are they selling data?

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      If you’re getting something for free, you aren’t the consumer, you are the product. Open Source projects (free as in speech) need some way to pay for the beer (not free). Enshittification is accelerating the conversion of services that have some form of free tier into more aggressively finding ways to monetize those users. Even services you pay for are selling your data, to make sure they can get maximum juice.

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      What we, the product, should be doing is selling our engagement to companies that need new and unique data to train AI models.

      The data we create (including this interaction) is more valuable than the 'service' Facebook provides.

      Maybe that's the way Lemmy will eventually enshittify, by paying people to join it and interact so that the data can be used for AI training... who needs advertisers? (Though, try to avoid the urge to tell them to go fuck themselves)

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        Firefox, Plex, and VPNs I can understand being surprised about. But the rest of them... I mean of course they were going to milk you for money. Was there ever a time when any of those didn't?

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        Betterhelp is a mental health therapy service. It's not exactly unreasonable for someone who doesn't know the company to think that their THERAPIST won't leak and sell their info.

        Talk about exacerbating trust issues!

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          I thought they meant Free Software, not free software and I'm like but you can just fork it.

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            Free != Libre

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              Betterhelp is a mental health therapy service. It's not exactly unreasonable for someone who doesn't know the company to think that their THERAPIST won't leak and sell their info.

              Talk about exacerbating trust issues!

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              Plus it's not free. So the assumption would be that they're making their momey by charging the therapist a service charge.

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                But, but, all the youtubers tell me VPN are for privacy 😮

                (/s)

                This is especially damning for BetterHelp, as they get all your health related data and such data is especially worth protecting. Fuck BetterHelp.

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                  Betterhelp is a mental health therapy service. It's not exactly unreasonable for someone who doesn't know the company to think that their THERAPIST won't leak and sell their info.

                  Talk about exacerbating trust issues!

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                  Yeah, ok. I'll concede Betterhelp too.

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                    Betterhelp is a mental health therapy service. It's not exactly unreasonable for someone who doesn't know the company to think that their THERAPIST won't leak and sell their info.

                    Talk about exacerbating trust issues!

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                    To be fair, it's the entire platform that sells the data, not the unlicenced "therapists" they employ.

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                      Firefox? Aren't they just getting anonymous telemetry and setting the default search engine to Google? I know they changed their TOS in the past but how are they selling data?

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                      Mozilla purchased an advertisement company and a fair chunk of the board of Mozilla are ex google.

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